AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[txsleuth70]

I sure will be ticked off if that is where she will be found. We all talked about septic system a few days ago, myself included. Someone here on websleuths even suggested when there was a tank brought it that maybe it was being used to drain the septic, but we never got word of what it was used for.

A flatbed truck with a tank on it was seen at NG home on day 2. So they have at least been considering it since then...MOO

 

[LRinCA]

There is zero evidence SG has come into contact with SIL since arriving. Perhaps initially, but the only appearances of SG we have seen have been with her siblings. She is absolutely not staying with SIL or even AG at this point.

Last night I read that she and her brother have been staying with her older sibling. I assume this means AG, since there aren't any other siblings I'm aware of. I'll look through the thread and try to find the post. I believe it was from a news article wherein the 6M ransom was mentioned.

 

[mikeshanty]

Seems way too obvious to put her in a well or sewer on the property. Even if they did continue a fake ransom story, they would know the house would be searched thoroughly.

 

[missy1974]

Which news station? Do you happen to have a link?

I'm watching fox... I will see if I can find an online link that I can share, but it's been hard to find!

 

[Izzylizzy]

We saw the Cellbrite the other day going in to AG's house. It was in a black case, and said "Cellbrite" on it.

Thank you.
I knew I heard/saw that somewhere.

 

[cady]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020559128121544834

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is that a bandage above her elbow? Interesting if this was taken the night of dinner and game re: doorstep blood. Just a thought.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020560047441629557

And they want everyone to keep talking and not lawyer up, so they don't want anyone to be declared a suspect, because that is when they lawyer up. LE also needs a body. Once this eventually hits a jury, no body is harder to prove a crime. If you have a body, usually you can find cause of death, then you might find a murder weapon. Lots to gain from getting a body. Anyone remember Kyron Horman case? Never found; stepmother did it IMO. LE never could bring charges because they really needed more physical evidence. (I lived just a few miles from where he disappeared and followed the case very, very, very closely. I worked out at the gym that they went to. For years the gym still had a fence with Kyron's picture, balloons, and flowers for him....)

IMO they are looking for a body right now in Nancy's backyard. Agree having a body will make a huge difference in proving the crime. IMO they are saying that they don't have any suspects because they don't want suspects knowing that they are suspects of LE. The more solid evidence they gather, the more the likelihood of a solid case that leads to a conviction. IMO

 

[TristanP]

Regarding criticism of authorities using large printed maps. Think in terms of having an engineer on a job site with blueprints to the house or building, not just a digital house plan you downloaded from eplans.com. Engineers, contractors, city planners still use printed blueprints, maps in addition to digital tools. Everything in the world is not on Google maps. We have giant cad printers to print digital copies of things. Sometimes, bigger is actually better.

I wasn’t criticizing…just being flippant.

It seems like it may be some kind of map of septic systems or sewers in the area based on what is being seen now.

 

[Fargo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020561835707990367

I don't think they'd be probing a septic tank on her property if they believed kidnappers had absconded with Ms Guthrie.

My opinion only.

 

[LifeAsAHouse]

This investigation is a right mess if they're just now getting around to checking the septic tank.

My opinion only.

I remember hearing someone, I think it was Harvey Levin, state that local LE was inexperienced in this area. I thought that was a great way to put it. No disrespect to anyone in that field but it may have been time to call in another agency last week.

moo

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Ditto. I live in Idaho and watched that YouTube fool first emerge strongly in the Idaho 4 case. His theories were ridiculous! Incidentally, that's also the first time I saw Brian's reporting. I think he does good work. No sensationalism.

The example of professionalism in journalism vs. amateur hacks

 

[birdbox]

All feels weird. Like they are either very close to a finish line or nowhere near one.

 

[txsleuth70]

is that a bandage above her elbow? Interesting if this was taken the night of dinner and game re: doorstep blood. Just a thought.

That photo is not said to have been taken from the mahjong dinner night. It could have been from 2 years ago who knows.

 

[Ellis' Mom]

Seems like a dry well, cesspool tank or water collection cistern.

I'm a home owner on a multi acre lot but am not familiar with desert living. My septic tank has a much smaller cover. An ominous are to search nonetheless.

My septic tanks (2) have the same, large, green access covers.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

This investigation is a right mess if they're just now getting around to checking the septic tank.

My opinion only.

Unbelievable if they are only checking the septic tank now. MO

 

[stmichael]

Right, my point is that the ransom can be paid at any time. They don’t have to wait til Monday at 5. It could already be paid for all we know.

Maybe it was paid and that’s why they’re looking in her septic tank in the back yard eight now. I sure freaking hope not tho.

Well yes, obviously.

That was the deadline reported in the latest ransom email. Whether they paid it since is obviously a possibility and speculation (which would be true whether bitcoin, and offshore account transfer, or a physical money drop).

 

[barth00]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020556889856278890

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She looks so sweet, I can’t even fathom anything violent happening to her

 

[carolmaria]

Yes, and i apologize to the poet musicians out there, but I don't see these two being able to pull this off.

I’m going to let go of speculation re: responsibility. It’s all too much.

That said, they seem both artistic and analytical to me; if this is not an approved source, I am glad to delete.

Tommaso Cioni, Nancy Guthrie's Son-in-Law, Was a Poet and Teacher

Tommaso Cioni is the husband of Annie Guthrie, Savannah Guthrie's sister.

www.mensjournal.com

 

[mikeshanty]

That photo is not said to have been taken from the mahjong dinner night. It could have been from 2 years ago who knows.

Exactly. It's not a recent photo. If it was from the mahjong dinner night, LE would have no reason not to disclose what NG was wearing.

 

[emigrate]

News is showing LE in Nancy's backyard removing ground cover lid of septic/sewer and searching inside.

I have had a feeling things would pick up on superbowl day for some reason, not sure why, just gut feeling. How much longer will they put this much manpower into the search if she is not found? I would wager not too much longer than a month?