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Right, my point is that the ransom can be paid at any time. They don’t have to wait til Monday at 5. It could already be paid for all we know.

Maybe it was paid and that’s why they’re looking in her septic tank in the back yard eight now. I sure freaking hope not tho.
Well yes, obviously.

That was the deadline reported in the latest ransom email. Whether they paid it since is obviously a possibility and speculation (which would be true whether bitcoin, and offshore account transfer, or a physical money drop).
 
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Yes, and i apologize to the poet musicians out there, but I don't see these two being able to pull this off.
I’m going to let go of speculation re: responsibility. It’s all too much.

That said, they seem both artistic and analytical to me; if this is not an approved source, I am glad to delete.

 
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That photo is not said to have been taken from the mahjong dinner night. It could have been from 2 years ago who knows.
Exactly. It's not a recent photo. If it was from the mahjong dinner night, LE would have no reason not to disclose what NG was wearing.
 
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News is showing LE in Nancy's backyard removing ground cover lid of septic/sewer and searching inside.
I have had a feeling things would pick up on superbowl day for some reason, not sure why, just gut feeling. How much longer will they put this much manpower into the search if she is not found? I would wager not too much longer than a month?
 
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IMO they are looking for a body right now in Nancy's backyard. Agree having a body will make a huge difference in proving the crime. IMO they are saying that they don't have any suspects because they don't want suspects knowing that they are suspects of LE. The more solid evidence they gather, the more the likelihood of a solid case that leads to a conviction. IMO
I'd be super surprised if she was on her own property. Far too risky for the Perps. I think somewhere in that vast desert nearby, a well known dumping grounds for the criminal element. Of course, I could be wrong - I have been more than a few times.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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My first thought that the "celebrate with her" was referring to a "celebration of life". I'm thinking that the siblings now know that the kidnapper cannot show a sign of life for their mother, but they are willing to pay to get her body back.
Agree, and to add, Guthrie family may pay in the hopes of getting mom’s body back, for a funeral, celebration of life, but maybe, even after paying, won’t ever get body back.
It’s too risky for ransom people to direct where body is( another note).
or ransom people are different from murderers, so ransom people don’t have access to the body, they are just opportunists.
 
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Anything could be in a septic tank-a weapon, a camera, something used during a crime. Hey guys, how about dropping in a small camera and taking a look? Somebody has to have one in a kit.
 
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SG is potentially viewed as another target.
<snipped for focus>

And I'm sure she is worried about her children as well. Assume they are in a tight security situation with her husband back at home.
 
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yup and dishes piling up among other things
I’m supposed to be vacuuming and making SuperBowl food. 🤷‍♀️ Gonna throw some chips at the football fans and sit in my chair with the sleuths.
 
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Why does this feel like a higher up boss said "Send me a report Monday of all the investigative work you've done thus far." and they are just scrambling this weekend to snap pics to put stuff in an official report and they still have nothing???
Good God, I hope not. :(
 
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A flatbed truck with a tank on it was seen at NG home on day 2. So they have at least been considering it since then...MOO
Perhaps they checked it then and have reason to now re-check it. Seems incomprehensible that it wasn't checked earlier although it's possible. MO
 
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Seems way too obvious to put her in a well or sewer on the property. Even if they did continue a fake ransom story, they would know the house would be searched thoroughly.
People panic and do stupid, irrational things. We've seen it time and again, a tale as old as time.

This wasn't some smooth pro case. It's been sloppy weirdness and keystone cops through and through.
 
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Just a friendly reminder: I sure wish stuff wasn't published on Twitter -- and that we weren't posting Twitter links because some of us don't use SM and can't access the content :(
If you copy the link of the item and change the web address to “xcancel.com” instead of x.com you can see it without any account.
 
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There is zero evidence SG has come into contact with SIL since arriving. Perhaps initially, but the only appearances of SG we have seen have been with her siblings. She is absolutely not staying with SIL or even AG at this point.
she was filmed going in and out of their home when this first broke. She was there with security.
 
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Good God, I hope not. :(
Yeah, I dont really believe that. I believe they are closing in and wrapping up details honestly!!
 
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<snipped for focus>

And I'm sure she is worried about her children as well. Assume they are in a tight security situation with her husband back at home.
Yeh, most likely. Sadly I don't see any way SG could go back to hosting the Today show or having much of a public profile after this. Both for her own safety and that of her family. There was a situation with a morning show anchor in my country where there was a plot to kidnap and unalive her; she's basically disappeared from the media (although there were some other reasons too for that).
 
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I'd be super surprised if she was on her own property. Far too risky for the Perps. I think somewhere in that vast desert nearby, a well known dumping grounds for the criminal element. Of course, I could be wrong - I have been more than a few times.

Amateur opinion and speculation
Exactly. It'd be the first place LE would look. Well ok, a week later, but still...
 
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