AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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My opinion only, I'm guessing that since they announced in the press conference (at the link below, which should take you to the exact time - 27:18), if they canceled it now it would raise questions they seem to not be ready to answer. I think they probably want to continue on with the plan that they have announced, until they are ready to officially release more information that explains why the plan has changed.

Maybe, I guess. If they stopped adding more, I don't think anyone would notice.
 
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They did announce no news conference until Tuesday unless there are significant developments, correct?
 
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Send a soldier 80 miles north with $500 worth of equipment and potentially extract $6 million in untraceable funds? Why not?
A glorified CBP bounty hunter with <$500 of Temu equipment could do the same. Just saying.
 
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Why does everyone think this was a botched or bungled kidnapping? Seems pretty clean to me and all the leverage is in the hands of a completely anonymous party.
 
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What could they be looking for in a septic tank? A body? The only other thing I can think of is if the “kidnapper” said that they left something in there that would confirm that they’re telling the truth. I’m still thinking they were looking for a dead body. Can anyone else think of another reason they would have been looking in it?
 
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Send a soldier 80 miles north with $500 worth of equipment and potentially extract $6 million in untraceable funds? Why not?

I don’t know for certain but I have seen reports that the cartels score 50-100 million deals. It’s a high risk lifestyle and they are chasing more than 6 million.
 
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I'm not from the area, but this Sheriff and his department doesn't seem like they are exactly on top of things in this investigation. What's the vibe from locals on the ability of this department to conduct a thorough investigation?
 
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What could they be looking for in a septic tank? A body? The only other thing I can think of is if the “kidnapper” said that they left something in there that would confirm that they’re telling the truth. I’m still thinking they were looking for a dead body. Can anyone else think of another reason they would have been looking in it?
Probably nothing in particular, just another rock to look under. JMO
 
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Something was obviously flushed.
 
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A body being in it.
Well sure. That’s the jackpot. But I don’t think that’s what they’re looking for.
 
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What could they be looking for in a septic tank? A body? The only other thing I can think of is if the “kidnapper” said that they left something in there that would confirm that they’re telling the truth. I’m still thinking they were looking for a dead body. Can anyone else think of another reason they would have been looking in it?
Someone would have to be extremely familiar with the property to dump a body into a septic tank in the wee hours of the morning. And to do so without leaving obvious signs of disturbing the earth around the opening would be nearly impossible. They might be looking for something that was flushed, but IMHO this just wreaks of desperation on LE's part.
 
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Why else would you search it?
The hole in the yard is big enough to drop a lot of things in. But, I don't think we have any reason to believe that the property was a secured crime scene. I don't know what they are doing.
 
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To those who keep posting about how their 90 year old relatives are "totally fine and like a 25 year old!", we are all truly happy for you and wish them many more years of health and no sudden changes unfortunately typical for most elderly people (and which should and can be prevented with realistic lifestyles and safety measures).

That said, legally and logically, the question isn’t ‘can a 90-year-old be out late?’ It’s ‘what’s typical or expected for a person of this age with documented mobility issues, a pacemaker, and reliance on daily medications.’ Anecdotes about healthier individuals aren’t comparable. Courts look at whether something would stand out to a reasonable person given the same facts, not whether exceptions exist.

Source: I'm a lawyer :)

I don’t know what’s normal—for NG, who just turned 84.

Yes, I know they say she has mobility issues.and heart issues.

But then I also read (link) she is active with friends and sharp of mind, and sometimes picks up and watches her grandson (so I assume she still drives).
Moo
 

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