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Anything is possible, but I just don't see AG or SIL being sophisticated enough to stump LE eight days into the investigation. IMHO, LE is now doing stuff that reeks completely of desperation, like re-securing previously released scenes, searching the septic tank, and sending cameras with no storage capabilities in to be analyzed, etc.
 
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Sorry for presenting this awful thought—
but, I hope all the wheeled trash bins have been accounted for at NG’s home?

I just recalled another case here where a killer attacked and placed the victim in one and wheeled the bin off the property into a van, so that the victim was later reported missing. I believe the perpetrator dumped the bin (with her remains) in some rural area.

I know, horrible.
 
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Anything is possible, but I just don't see AG or SIL being sophisticated enough to stump LE eight days into the investigation. IMHO, LE is now doing stuff that reeks completely of desperation, like re-securing previously released scenes, searching the septic tank, and sending cameras with no storage capabilities in to be analyzed, etc.
Was it FBI or Local LE that looked in septic tank?
 
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I'm pretty sure there is no "solution" for this family.
Likely not. But it should be alarming for anyone within a days drive from the border.
 
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I'm very curious about the recent three and a half hour nighttime search by the Sheriff's dept. (very widely reported in this thread and in the media) of an area home that's not the home of NG. (please forgive the vagueness, I'm just trying to be certain I don't break the rules here).

I'm wondering if anyone here familiar with police forensics/luminol tests would happen to know if police normally, even if they see no traces on the luminol tests, would follow up their low light photos (meant to show the luminol) with flashes (meant to show the scene?) Or, if they saw nothing on the luminol, would they skip a lot of the regular flash photos? And, if they found something they wanted to do a DNA test on, what kind of timeframe would be normal for them getting results?

Thanks!
 
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Was it FBI or Local LE that looked in septic tank?
Not sure, but either way it seems damning to the state of the investigation IMO. Maybe they think they can get DNA from someone who used the toilet? That seems highly unlikely.
 
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I thought so too, but Turkey Trot's link ( a few posts back) is Mediaite which says it was FBI.......???? JMO
I just googled ....I see "cops", "investigators", "FBI" in different articles. so ?
 
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I saw the drone footage of that on a local (AZ, though not Tucson) TV news. The officer poking around in the opening with a white pole had "Sherriff' in yellow lettering on the back of his vest.
 
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Words used DO matter, in my humble opinion....
 
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Likely not. But it should be alarming for anyone within a days drive from the border.
You’ve brought up the border like a dozen times in an hour with zero evidence besides a hunch. You are entitled to your own opinion, but it feels highly illogical to me that Mexican cartels would break international law and risk an American military invasion for 6 million dollars, which is not a lot of money for these gangs. Maybe give it a beat as we wait for new info?

I know we are all grasping in the dark because we have no solid info, but I have a feeling there will be a much simpler explanation than transnational kidnapping gangs.
 
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I was responding to your question of “what’s typical or expected for a person of this age with documented mobility issues, a pacemaker, and reliance on daily medications.’

Since I don’t know her personally, I only know what I’ve read about her, and what’s typical for her.

moo
Ok yes it just seems that many people here aren't really engaging the question in good faith of what's reasonable for NG based on what we know about her. Anecdotal stories about people in different circumstances (age, health, mobility, health issues) are, frankly, irrelevant. I've been speaking about what I know about NG based on reporting and on people I know who ARE in similar condition to her, and what would be considered reasonable in my opinion.

I also think many older people may not want to lose their freedom and can downplay issues they may be having, or family members are also in denial somewhat about aging and the (often very sudden) risks for older people that can become irreversible problems (such as a bad fall).

Not totally related to your post, I do think personally and in my opinion only, that SG was somewhat naive about her mother's living situation given all the circumstances. I'm not sure what the answer would be, and I'm not saying she should have lived in a facility by any means.

Also SG being a public figure who I'm sure has had stalkers (I have as well and it changes how you see your safety and living situation and those of your family) it just all seems a bit naive.
 
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Why does everyone think this was a botched or bungled kidnapping? Seems pretty clean to me and all the leverage is in the hands of a completely anonymous party.
I think some people want to think is that it is a cover-up - not an actual kidnapping at all.
 
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I don't totally disagree with you about the messiness of it. But SG's pockets are quite deep, compared to her sister who I have read in other posts may be in debt with her husband to some extent, and live in a home worth under $1M compared to SG's real estate and net worth.

I think under certain circumstances, not least of which the strain and stress of being a primary caretaker, could affect this calculation for them.

I also think it's worth pointing out that anyone that tries to harm a family member probably isn't in their right mind in the first place, or a good person
We still do not know if the crimes are related, or committed by the same persons. After a week, we are still in the dark. JMO
 
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