AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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How would they know even?
You can see the wallet publicly with crypto if you have the address. LE has the wallet address
 
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back to my Jon Benet vibes

last seen at bedtime
up late
out at party earlier
ransom note of questionable origin
movie quotes in ransom note
family members suspected
family members appear in media
Jon Benet's body never left the premises ( interesting)
broken glass and possible break in near rear door
questionable evidence.

mOO

Probably the parallel is between what people were thinking initially and what they were seeing all that time, IRL. Well, the tragedy destroyed everyone, did it not?
 
  • #14,523
How would they know even?
The Blockchain is a public ledger. If you know a wallet address you can see all the transactions coming and going into that wallet. It's not private. TMZ received a ransom note that contained the wallet address.
 
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They take on the commitment because they love their mother, but as time goes on it can become very exhausting and time consuming especially when one is married and they both have jobs. Things can always change as well. It may work for a long time and then something happens where it no longer works for whatever reason. Family dynamics change and problems can arise. I love my grandma so much and we're extremely close but taking care of her by myself is very hard on me sometimes especially with no help from other family members. ):

WHERE are you Ms. Nancy? I hope, wish and pray she is found soon.

MOO>
Nancy is independent!! You're talking about "caregiver" burnout that happens when family members are caring for a loved one when they can no longer take care of themselves. Also, if Nancy needed more assistance, the family has the funds to hire outside help. This whole line of thought is very farfetched. I'm sure AG and her husband are racked with guilt for this happening to Nancy because of their close proximity, even though they had nothing to do with it and could do nothing to protect Nancy from this happening. JMO
 
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A bitcoin account allegedly set up to accept funds in exchange for Savannah Guthrie's missing mother Nancy is still sitting empty Monday morning ... with time quickly winding down on an alleged deadline.
Perhaps the strategy is to leave any transfer down to the wire (pardon the pun) in the event proof of life is shown as the deadline nears. If there really has been a kidnap and ransom, that is. Jmo.
 
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The casual interview surely have happened more than likely. But to my knowledge we haven't heard of any "downtown" interviews. I would think the media would have learned about that one way or another. Even if, as someone suggested earlier, these interviews have happened in another jurisdiction, I'd still think that would get leaked. So to my thinking, there have been no downtown interviews of any family or acquaintances. I hope that's not the case because we're a week plus in already.
If LE asked the family members for their fingerprints, and they consented, would they need to do this at the police station? Would a warrant be required even if they were not considered a suspect?
 
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Couldn't they be one and the same though? I believe so because I have always thought that just because the Sheriff said the family was contacted at 11, he might not have meant on the dot.

That is why I never bought into the hour search by the family.

Family is told. The family looks for Nancy at 11:56 a.m. The family calls LE 7 minutes later.

Catalina Foothills Church (CFC) in Tucson holds Sunday services at 8:45 AM (Traditional) and 10:45 AM (Modern), with the building generally open from 8:30 AM to 12:30 PM.
I don't think so because the sheriff also described how the family went to NG's home to look for her. They live four miles away (assuming they came from their home).
 
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Most people are not aware of crime going on around them. My city was controlled by organized crime in the 1950s and 60s (moon shine kingpin lawyer had control of the courts). ~99% of people were totally unaware, me included.
You must know cartels are not all from South America?
We are talking about Americans committing this crime. Maybe your own neighbor is one of them. Cartels are everywhere.
 
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The cartel angle has never made any sense to me. Why would a cartel that brings in $100s of millions to billions selling drugs travel to the USA to kidnap/disappear a random grandmother for a $million or even $6 million? It makes no sense. Plus, let's say it was the cartel. Those guys are criminal pro's. They would be in and out of that house in 5 minutes. They wouldn't stick around for 40 minutes or whatever it was. On top of that, let's say the cartel did it and got caught. Trump has already declared the cartels a terrorist organization and he is going to eliminate them. Why give POTUS one more reason to go after them? They aren't idiots.

What does make sense is the SIL. He was with her that night. Dropped her off. I think there is a strong possibility he discussed $$$ with her. She said no to his request. He dropped her off. Stewed about it for a few hours. Maybe had some drinks. Went back to her place to try and change her mind and things got out of control. Or he could even have went back to her place later on to end her so that he and his wife would get their share of the inheritance. To me that makes the most sense to me, and the simplest explanation.

The ransom is either him trying to buy time and give a fake narrative of what happened, or just some idiots who are trying to take advantage of the situation.
 
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If they have access to the address on the ransom note, then the wallet’s transactions are traceable by anybody on the blockchain’s “public ledger”.
ah ok I thought it was private like a bank account
 
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What if LE didn't put the contact from the church friend on the timeline because that contact and the family beginning to look for Nancy is the exact same time????
 
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The Blockchain is a public ledger. If you know a wallet address you can see all the transactions coming and going into that wallet. It's not private. TMZ received a ransom note that contained the wallet address.
Do we know if both ransom’s contained the same account #’s?
 
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Can anyone link a legit source says that stated the contact by the church friend was a "call"?

I have only heard "notified" and "contacted" when Nancy's church friend reached out to the family after she was noticably absent from church.

What if after the church service the friend decided to stop by Nancy's to check on her and a family member was already there?

Remember the family was "contacted" at 11:56 a.m. 👀
I thought the family arrived at NGs at that time?
 
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been AFK all weekend, just now catching up
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John Tittle, the pastor at St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church, led a prayer early in the service as he said the congregation continued to stand with the Guthrie family.

“We are seeking to just honor the family’s privacy and their desires,” Tittle said. “It was communicated to me, ‘pray.’ We’re going to keep praying through this horrific ordeal.”

The prayer asked for God to protect the 84-year-old matriarch and allow her to feel their love, as well as asking to “guide the authorities in their search for Nancy.” Tittle also asked to soften the hearts of “those who are responsible” so they may do what is “humane and right.”
Nancy Guthrie's church asks congregation to pray for missing 84-year-old

The church’s director of communications, Amy Grover, shared that Nancy has been a dedicated member of St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church for 30 years
Nancy Guthrie’s Pastor Prays for Her in Moving Church Service After 8 Days Missing: VIDEO

Nanos also revealed during the press conference that Nancy’s disappearance was first reported Sunday morning after a friend from her church noticed she was not at service and called one of her adult children.

They then went to Nancy's home to check on her, and "did some searching and realized, 'We need some help,' and they called 911."
https://people.com/savannah-guthries-moms-church-reported-her-missing-11897480

All this talk about NG not physically attending church since COVID when in the very first presser the sheriff told us her church friend noticed her missing at service.

I wish someone would clear up WHO called family? Was it a church friend who physically saw her most Sundays? Did the church friend have AG's phone number or have to seek it out? WHY is there now no mention in subsequent pressers of this call from church friend and why is the time of that call not in the official timeline?

Maybe the church friend is the perp! Try that out for a twist!!!!!!
 
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Can anyone link a legit source says that stated the contact by the church friend was a "call"?

I have only heard "notified" and "contacted" when Nancy's church friend reached out to the family after she was noticably absent from church.

What if after the church service the friend decided to stop by Nancy's to check on her and a family member was already there?

Remember the family was "contacted" at 11:56 a.m. 👀
 

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MAYBE THE CHURCH FRIEND IS THE PERP! TRY THAT OUT FOR A TWIST!!!!!!
I understood the church contact may have been the pastor. That would be a serious allegation, so would advise adding "jmo" to the end. JMO.
 
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Edit to add: Thought I copied the headline lol

story about the bitcoin not having any transactions
 
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What if LE didn't put the contact from the church friend on the timeline because that contact and the family beginning to look for Nancy is the exact same time????
You'd still think it would be in:

Church member contacts family re NG's absence in Church; family begins search.
 
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What if LE didn't put the contact from the church friend on the timeline because that contact and the family beginning to look for Nancy is the exact same time????
You mean to say they got the call and were in the home at the same time at 11:56?
 

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