Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[AZLocal]

I'm sure it's a thought because of geographical location, proximity to the border.

And it’s utterly incorrect, as the many people who live in this area have stated on numerous occasions.

 

[mikeshanty]

Can anyone link a legit source says that stated the contact by the church friend was a "call"?

I have only heard "notified" and "contacted" when Nancy's church friend reached out to the family after she was noticably absent from church.

What if after the church service the friend decided to stop by Nancy's to check on her and a family member was already there?

Remember the family was "contacted" at 11:56 a.m.

No, 11:56AM, "family checks on Nancy". The contact to the family has been removed from the timeline; Sheriff originally told a press conference someone called the "children" at 11AM after NG failed to show up for church.

 

[MizStery]

could you elaborate on how this federal complaint destroys the official timeline? The official timeline contains exact, to the minute, times of key events. While that timeline doesn't mention the call or communication from church friend, this complaint, which only contains broad approximation of times, supports that a communication from such an individual did indeed occur.

How does complaint destroy timeline? In my mind both timeline and complaint can be true?

This is only my opinion.

I personally keep the ‘official timeline’ pinned to the top of my notes as I track the developments of any case I follow.

If there is an ‘official change’ I personally like to see the ‘official timeline’ revised (so I can update my notes)to reflect any changes made by LE. I have in other cases found myself ‘working off inaccurate timelines’ to my detriment ( more times than I will admit). Absolutely I could be nitpicking I admit I have been guilty of it before.

Ticya thank you for your response and I agree that as you stated both can indeed be true.

I hope this clarifies the criticism in my post and that I acknowledge that the point you made is well taken.

 

[Napoli]

So much appears to have happened with the investigation over the weekend, where do you think we stand?

1) As far as Annie Guthrie's car that's reportedly impounded, would they be looking for blood and download data from the on-board computer showing any movement during the early Sunday morning time frame of the crime?

2) Nancy Guthrie's Subaru impounded to see if someone was hiding in the car while the garage was opened? Maybe looking for touch DNA on handles foreign to the family?

3) Guessing that the septic tank check was just a precaution since no proof of life for Nancy and no body found elsewhere?

4) Finding the camera on top of roof was bizarre. Again, there was probably no subscription service so even though camera found and not smashed this time, data written over top of the time period in question probably makes it useless.

Anything else significant I missed? probably so

DO AG AND TC ONLY HAVE ONE CAR? WHY DID THEY ONLY IMPOUND ONE?

 

[mikeshanty]

Likely a sprinkler head busted from the irrigation line. Pretty common.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020881236714221599

Thank you for confirming. I mean this so obviously has nothing to do whatsoever with the investigation

 

[K9Enzo]

I agree. And you’ve really gotta just consent for optics, because they’re almost certainly able to get a warrant otherwise.

Agreed. LE, IMO, went into the home with a purpose. They were not just snooping around. IMO

 

[minazoe]

back to my Jon Benet vibes

last seen at bedtime
up late
out at party earlier
ransom note of questionable origin
movie quotes in ransom note
family members suspected
family members appear in media
Jon Benet's body never left the premises ( interesting)
broken glass and possible break in near rear door
questionable evidence.

mOO

 

[Sadi]

I’m sure yesterday there was an update from the Sheriffs office which stated there were NO suspects and NO POIs. If this is the case, the family are victims.

ETA - yes, it’s here

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020557653588726267

According to one theory, perhaps the people who disappeared Nancy are not the same people who are making the ransom demands. JMO.

I believe this a million percent.

 

[Charlot123]

We know the deadline for the ransom money (5pm local time), but do we know what time she'd then be released?

Even if I was a trusting person, and I am not by far, I wouldn't trust them even the slightest bit. To take millions with a chance of never being caught?? But those chances of being caught grow by releasing Nancy. I'm not feeling good about this at all.

I didn't like that they were reduced to begging, in public no less, and now paying a high ransom to MAYBE get their mother back? It would be more than a double slap in the face to pay and get nothing for it. And you KNOW they'd be laughing about it. The thought really frosts my butt.

It's going to be a nailbiter of a day for everyone. I really feel for the family.

I am a rather trusting person and yet, the future where Nancy is returned to the family alive and in a decent shape, I can’t imagine. I’d be very happy to be proven wrong.

 

[mikeshanty]

Why would the FBI put false information in their criminal complaint filing?

https://www.justice.gov/usao-az/media/1426976/dl?inline

I take that back - thank you for sharing this. I can now see the legal document refers to "On the morning of 1 February, a friend of N.G.'s contacted the victim's family and notified them that N.G. had not attended church that morning".

The filing also confirms NG's medication was in the home. So the chances of life seem slim.

 

[osu]

I'd be surprised if she was alive after the day she was taken.

In those very first reports it was said that homicide teams were on scene at NG’s house. Some of the statements made by the sheriff during the first presser made it sound like it was a grim scene. IMO, I think she could’ve been dead before she even left the house.

This excerpt is quoting the first press conference:

‘Searchers were using drones and search dogs to look for her, Nanos said. Search and rescue teams were supported by volunteers and Border Patrol, and the homicide team was also involved, he said. It is not standard for the homicide team to get involved in such cases, Nanos said. The FBI has offered to help, Carrillo said.

“This one stood out because of what was described to us at the scene and what we located just looking at the scene,” Nanos said Sunday. He was not ruling out foul play.

On Monday morning, Nanos said search crews worked hard but have since been pulled back.

“We don’t see this as a search mission so much as it is a crime scene,” the sheriff said.

Authorities believe 'Today' show host Savannah Guthrie's mother was taken against her will

Authorities believe the 84-year-old mother of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie was kidnapped, abducted or otherwise taken against her will.

www.wcvb.com

 

[tlcya]

This is only my opinion.

I personally keep the ‘official timeline’ pinned to the top of my notes as I track the developments of any case I follow.

If there is an ‘official change’ I personally like to see the ‘official timeline’ revised (so I can update my notes)to reflect any changes made by LE. I have in other cases found myself ‘working off inaccurate timelines’ to my detriment ( more times than I will admit).. Absolutely I could be nitpicking I admit I have been guilty of it before.

Ticya thank you for your response and I agree that as you stated both can indeed be true.

I hope this clarifies the criticism in my post and that I acknowledge that the point you made is well taken.

thank you for responding and clarifying. I admit, I do not know the reason behind that communication from church friend being left out of the timeline. But I also don't think the feds would continue a lie in a federal filing by stating that communication happened if it did not.

I can only assume they have their reasons for not giving us more info on the specifics of that communication to family.

 

[birdbox]

back to my Jon Benet vibes

last seen at bedtime
up late
out at party earlier
ransom note of questionable origin
movie quotes in ransom note
family members suspected
family members appear in media
Jon Benet's body never left the premises ( interesting)
broken glass and possible break in near rear door
questionable evidence.

mOO

Honestly, a ransom note in America is really more of simething you may strugglecto even see in a bad murder mystery movie plot.

 

[UK Girl]

PER FOX PER TMZ..BITCOIN ACCOUNT REMAINS EMPTY... THE MONEY HAS NOT BEEN DEPOSITED IN THE ACCOUNT

How would they know even?

 

[Fargo]

PER FOX PER TMZ..BITCOIN ACCOUNT REMAINS EMPTY... THE MONEY HAS NOT BEEN DEPOSITED IN THE ACCOUNT

Is there a link?

 

[mikeshanty]

How would they know even?

TMZ saw the ransom letter presumably with the account details.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

I had to look up javelinas. Would they not eat bodies that are dumped in the desert?

Also, I am thinking if NG was killed (accidentally or not) by family, would the ‘kidnapping’ be a means of getting a (decomposing) body back to the rest of the family for burial? So sorry that I am even using these words that may be read by the many people who loved NG.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Nancy Guthrie Alleged Ransom Account Remains Empty as Deadline Approaches

A bitcoin account allegedly set up to accept funds in exchange for Savannah Guthrie's missing mother Nancy is still sitting empty Monday morning ... with time quickly winding down on an alleged deadline.

www.tmz.com

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A bitcoin account allegedly set up to accept funds in exchange for Savannah Guthrie's missing mother Nancy is still sitting empty Monday morning ... with time quickly winding down on an alleged deadline.

 

[ivylambs]

How would they know even?

If they have access to the address on the ransom note, then the wallet’s transactions are traceable by anybody on the blockchain’s “public ledger”.

 

[HoveringWombats]

How would they know even?

Bitcoin transactions are publicly visible on the blockchain. This is the entire premise of bitcoin (but to reiterate, there is no personal information associated at this point). There are multiple websites that let you explore the blockchain and look at transactions. For example, Blockchain Explorer - Bitcoin Tracker & More | Blockchain.com

If we had the bitcoin address in the ransom note, we could confirm this ourselves.