• #14,921
I really hope at the next press conference, some reporter asks the sheriff to clarify if someone actually noticed Nancy not at church, either in person or online, if they called the family to notify them, at what time, and did the police interview that person. Otherwise this question is going to keep circulating non-stop with speculation, trying to fill in gaps, and no straight answer. It doesn't seem like it should be all that secretive. The sheriff mentioned it on his own at the very first press conference like it was no big deal. If he suddenly gets tight lipped, either something changed or he didn't have all his facts right the first time and now they're just keeping everything close to the vest.
I think one of the reasons the Sheriff has not clarified the church statement is because I think he may have misspoke about it, just like he misspoke about someone taking Nancy from her bed.

It could be that AG tried to contact her mom, couldnt and contacted a friend of NGs, and the friend said "I didn't see her in church today". And then AG calls the cops and mentions her mom wasn't in church and is missing.
 
  • #14,922
The NYT doesn't fact check the way they used to. Just my own experience.
Sounds like it's taken from the initial presser.
Time will tell all.

Well, can't blame them for reporting what the local Sheriff said at a press event!

BUT the Sheriff was possibly going by what he was told by relatives. And maybe there was no further verification.


Another source:


The Sheriff said someone who attends church with NG called because she never made it to services.

Approximately 11 a.m.: Someone who attends church with Nancy Guthrie called the family to report that the 84-year-old never made it to services, the sheriff said.

 
  • #14,923
The Daily Mail has decided to semi-expose where Savannah and her siblings are allegedly staying. It's a $1.2 million mansion in the Catalina Foothills area of Tucson. It sits in an exclusive gated neighborhood with a guardhouse. They have been there for several days.

Behind a paywall, but those are the pertinent details.


All of them staying together, if true, is either a sign that one (or two) of those folks that some suspect are involved aren't involved at all, or they are rabidly malignant human beings. Odds are the former.

JMO.
 
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I have a question—why would the people wanting the ransom tell the Sibs that NG was no longer alive? And still demand the ransom. I’d think by admitting that she’s deceased that the ransomer just slammed shut any hope of getting a ransom. Now I heard SGs reply that they will pay for a body - is essentially what she said. I just think admitting she’s no longer alive would decrease your chance of getting any money. That’s just my thought anyway
 
  • #14,927
Imo they have never been conducting a search and rescue. The sheriff all but admitted that in the first press conference a week ago.
Right, didn't they call in homicide on day one?
 
  • #14,928

From the clip: Brian and other reporters haven't been able to find a warrant for the searches that took place at AG's house.
And just like that now I’m thinking maybe it wasn’t a family member like SIL 🤷‍♀️. Even those with prior FBI/LE experience said they’ve never seen a case like this.
 
  • #14,929
Ok wow... I don't even know what to say about that video. They think NG is still alive?!

I'm also wondering about the choice to have SG post this video given what we were just discussing about attention seeking/the perp(s) trying to hurt SG.... [Edit: Wouldn't this prolong the "hunt", or are they giving the perps what they think they want? Wouldn't they want to see SG more devastated then? Sorry that is quite dark I know.]
 
  • #14,930
And why the sudden appeal to the public a week later? I know she will be under enormous stress, but something in her tone and approach seems a little more upbeat in this latest video?
 
  • #14,931
Listening to SG's new video, it doesn't sound like LE is close to solving this.
 
  • #14,932
Well, can't blame them for reporting what the local Sheriff said at a press event!

BUT the Sheriff was possibly going by what he was told by relatives. And maybe there was no further verification.


Another source:


The Sheriff said someone who attends church with NG called because she never made it to services.

Approximately 11 a.m.: Someone who attends church with Nancy Guthrie called the family to report that the 84-year-old never made it to services, the sheriff said.

Thanks 👍.
Yes, the Sheriff took it as gospel. But since then, certain parties may have rethought it!
JMO
 
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Savannah was remarkably composed there, and still optimistic that her mom is alive.
 
  • #14,935
And just like that now I’m thinking maybe it wasn’t a family member like SIL 🤷‍♀️. Even those with prior FBI/LE experience said they’ve never seen a case like this.
There's always an exception, true enough.
Yet consent would be given because otherwise police will obtain a warrant anyway. MOO
 
  • #14,936
And why the sudden appeal to the public a week later? I know she will be under enormous stress, but something in her tone and approach seems a little more upbeat in this latest video?
Sometimes you just get to a point where you have no more tears to shed. It happens while actively grieving.
 
  • #14,937
The Daily Mail has decided to semi-expose where Savannah and her siblings are allegedly staying. It's a $1.2 million mansion in the Catalina Foothills area of Tucson. It sits in an exclusive gated neighborhood with a guardhouse. They have been there for several days.

Behind a paywall, but those are the pertinent details.

Ugh why do they have to try and 'glamorize everything'??

"Desert Hideaway" 🙄

Presumably it's close to Nancy's and therefore very convenient but also it WAS private. What did they do, follow her back there?!

Maybe the ransom note writer works for the flippin Daily Mail!
 
  • #14,938
Savannah was remarkably composed there, and still optimistic that her mom is alive.

I agree. I got the same vibe from it. there must be something in the letter that makes them think she’s alive.
 
  • #14,939
I have a question—why would the people wanting the ransom tell the Sibs that NG was no longer alive? And still demand the ransom. I’d think by admitting that she’s deceased that the ransomer just slammed shut any hope of getting a ransom. Now I heard SGs reply that they will pay for a body - is essentially what she said. I just think admitting she’s no longer alive would decrease your chance of getting any money. That’s just my thought anyway
 
  • #14,940
Interesting words in SG's post. No capitals used (too aggressive?) and the 'she needs you'? I'm trying to make sense of it:

please. bring her home. we need you. she needs you. all of you.

*ETA: is the ransom/communicator threatening their own life so SG's is saying she needs you (to stay alive to keep NG alive) and 'all of you' (meaning mentally or physically?) or is SG referring to the public there?
 
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