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MOO:

If they are investigating a particular person or group, then yes. They can take a look at search history for incriminating stuff. If they have no starting point, it is not practical to scour all search traffic to try to find queries of interest. I don't think this is a viable path of investigation without first narrowing it to a suspect or person of interest.

Gotcha, maybe someday that will be an option. That would be a game changer in criminal investigations I would think.
 
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and Now I am circling back to my initial thinking. repairmen, someone delivering or installing something. Who gathered just enough intel on their visit(s) to the property to case the home.
That was my first thought. ^^^
Not so sure anymore.
Anyone employed for cleaning, cooking, yard work, etc., would know quite a bit regarding their employer.
But how would they think they'd ever get away with such a crime ?
They'd have to know they'd be looked at first ?
Not much information out there, however I'd imagine LE have questioned them all and come up with nothing so far ?
Jmo.
 
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IDK if this matters - but it's 4:00 on the east coast - an hour away from 5:00.....do we know if the ransom is due at 5:00 EST??
5pm mt
 
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IDK if this matters - but it's 4:00 on the east coast - an hour away from 5:00.....do we know if the ransom is due at 5:00 EST??
“Multiple ransom notes have been sent out to the media, including one that was sent to us,” JJ McKinney from Tucson ABC affiliate KGUN9 reported.

“In the letter, the potential kidnappers demanded that the Guthries pay them $6 million before this Monday.”

The ransom note writers said Nancy’s Guthrie’s life is in peril if the deadline – set for 5 p.m. local time on Monday – isn’t met, the outlet reported.

Edited by me, I misspoke and gave incorrect information.
 
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With respect, many of us would be under investigation for suspicious searches. I searched "How long does a body take to become skeletal" yesterday after a discussion about this on WS 😅
I asked chat GPT to write a ransom note for me yesterday to see if the wording would be similar....waiting for people to show up at my house......prob wont do that again. (for the record - it says it cant do that.....)
 
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This will get deleted, but I had to scroll 26 time to read all of this post, while there are notes more compact notes somewhere here. Sorry to be rude, but really.
ok I'll delete it
 
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If someone "sees her out there" after 8 days of capture in a super high profile media case, then I think Jesse Pinkman and his gang are behind it.

I feel like they're actually giving up on the ransom angle, based on the new video.

what makes you think they're giving up, genuinely asking?

so few true crime cases are actually high profile, as in known by the general public. that's why they put all those billboards up - the vast majority of people have maybe heard this case in passing or scrolled by it on their social media, if at all. they wouldn't know who nancy is or what she looks like if they saw her at a rest stop. SG is asking people to keep their eyes open.
 
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IDK if this matters - but it's 4:00 on the east coast - an hour away from 5:00.....do we know if the ransom is due at 5:00 EST??
we don't know time zone, but that "may" mean Mountain, which is Tucson?
 
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There is a reason SG is alone in this last video, and that she appears like "herself", (to the public eye), and with direct eye contact. I can't speculate on the reason, but like some others here I sense an undertone of ....something....wrath? more than frustration and desperation, which are also preent.
To be honest, her siblings have felt like distractions in the previous videos. This seems like Savannah taking things into her own hands.
 
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dbm
 
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The past videos seemed to be addressed to the kidnaper/s, we will do what you want, we will pay you, pleading. In this one, she is asking citizens to get out there and help catch those mfers who took her mother. The gloves are off. You can bet the perpetrators didn’t tell her they want more law enforcement involved.
 
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One t

One thing that seems very clear from this video: it would be pointless to post something like this - even as a diversion - if police were closing in on your family members as murder suspects.
Unless it’s to throw off the perp.
 
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Doesn’t surprise me that a fellow church goer would call regarding NG‘s absence from church service. I don’t question that there wasn’t an actual call. I think there was. I would be surprised to find out the church call was actually from a church goer. IMO
Would that change if it was a virtual church service instead of in person?
 
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This will get deleted, but I had to scroll 26 time to read all of this post, while there are notes more compact notes somewhere here. Sorry to be rude, but really.
that post was absurd. Did not read. Too much for this fast moving forum.
 
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Unless it’s to throw off the perp.
This doesn't seem to make sense to me - she is appealing to the nation to report anything to law enforcement. Why would they do that if they had a perp in mind?
 
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I'm wondering how this squares with their last message of "we will pay" ? Like, did they ?
 
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There is a lot of focus on this call from the church, etc. There could be so many different factors to consider that are likely irrelvant to information the public needs.
She might have had a role in the service (teaching sunday school, greeter, etc.). She may have been responsible for picking someone up - they tried to reach her when she didnt' show and couldn't so they called the church who called her family. She could have had a bestie that was waiting for her as they always do and when she didn't show and she couldn't reach her, called the family knowing that something must be wrong. These things would not follow the timeline of just someone noticing she wasn't there that day.
I don't doubt that the family and investigators would be questioning this if the call from the church wasn't typical or outside of an expected response.
But if she attended services virtually since COVID, none of these things apply. I mean, I guess she could have taught Sunday School online.
 
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The past videos seemed to be addressed to the kidnaper/s, we will do what you want, we will pay you, pleading. In this one, she is asking citizens to get out there and help catch those mfers who took her mother. The gloves are off. You can bet the perpetrators didn’t tell her they want more law enforcement involved.
Yes. The first two videos were speaking directly to the "kidnappers" and only them. In this new one she cuts them out completely and appeals to her public for help. Major FU.

My opinion only.
 
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