AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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So I am fairly sure some of the homes in this have cams to the outside. I haven't seen any news regarding looking at door cams of neighbors etc.
Issues. Properties are spaced apart, and many are set back from the road, and kind of offset.

So there's a long distance between cameras and roadways, and there tends to be desert brush in between.
 
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TMZ is live on CNN right now. Says they think the person is local to the area that took her. The person noted the exact location of her Apple Watch.
 
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So there's a long distance between cameras and roadways, and there tends to be desert brush in between.
And especially at night, most consumer security cameras don't do a great job of capturing detail, particularly at a distance. I'd think that at most, they might capture some headlights going by, but unless there happened to be both a clear shot and a well-placed street light, even seeing what kind of car it is would be tough, let alone any truly identifying details.
 
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Someone up thread stared they could have been in the house before the doorbell was disabled. It would have been easy to slip into the garage when the family dropped her off if they went inside with her for a bit. They would not have closed the door until they left. Just a thought. The doorbell camera could have been removed so they could get her out of the house and or to drive a car up the driveway.
 
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Someone up thread stared they could have been in the house before the doorbell was disabled. It would have been easy to slip into the garage when the family dropped her off if they went inside with her for a bit. They would not have closed the door until they left. Just a thought. The doorbell camera could have been removed so they could get her out of the house and or to drive a car up the driveway.
Possible, but the official timeline suggests that the doorbell camera was disabled at the beginning of the incident, not the end.
 
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i seriously don't get the impressing that NG is loaded..... i don't know what she did as a job to raise her kids once she was widowed.... but i've not seen anything that leads me to believe she's rich.

her home is valued at a million BUT it was apparently purchased for $85,000 YEARS ago based on posts early in the thread.

do i can't see where HER money is the motivation for ransom.....
Property tax must be expensive and she retired a long time ago. Probably not getting much in retirement payments.
The kidnapper might not have made contact because he can't prove that Nancy is alive. Hope she is okay, though.
 
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Wow that was extremely direct. I so hope someone is holding her and she's alive rn
I hope so too, with all my heart.
 
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So she's a poet and he's a teacher. They just bought a house last year for 650 thousand something? Is that a normal amount with these jobs? Idk if being a poet is a job tho 🤔 Maybe SG helped with funding so they can look after mom a bit? Where i live (Netherlands) no way with these jobs it's possible to afford a home of this value so i really have no idea


In comparison to her New York based sister, Savannah Guthrie, Annie Guthrie lives a less public life in Arizona.

Back in 2015, Annie released a sequence of poems in her book titled The Good Dark. The book’s “About the Author” section states Annie is a “writer and jeweler living in Tucson.”

 
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AG is a published poet more here Annie Guthrie
and an instructor/professor, she patches together a lot of jobs to make ends meet, as poetry definitely doesn't pay much:

"Guthrie is currently Marketing and Publicity Director for feminist/activist Kore Press, and runs a commission-only jewelry business at the Splinter Brothers & Sisters Warehouse. She has been teaching the discipline of “Oracular Writing” since 2009."
 
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I think the Ransom note is just a complete hoax - if it was true then I believe once it hit the media (about 48 hours ago now?) there would quickly be a ‘proof of life’ sent. This is an 84 year old women who requires medication to control health issues.. she would also be under huge stress.. I don’t think time is really on ‘the abductors side’

I also don’t think if you was abducting somebody you’d notice that a smart watch was left behind.. This information was released in the media prior to the note imo.

I think the FBI person played it clever by reporting an arrest for a hoax letter.. I think this will send the other ransom note author into a panic and they likely will never hear from them again MOO
Well if the other ransom note is a hoax too, i sure hope we hear that the fbi nabbed ‘em! Moo
 
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Transcript

This is Cameron Guthrie. I'm speaking for the Guthrie family. Whoever is out there holding our mother, we want to hear from you. We haven't heard anything directly. We need you to reach out and we need a way to communicate with you so we can move forward. But first, we have to know that you have our mom. We want to talk to you and we are waiting for contact.
 
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Dbm
 
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About six months ago, where I live, they uncovered a crime ring where Amazon drivers were selling addresses and information to people who would then go back and take advantage of a situation. The drivers were able to report if people lived alone if they had animals and because they had visited these locations a few times they became somewhat friendly with the homeowners because we are a welcoming bunch lol there was an Amazon package on her front doorstep when Brian Entin took his video. Amazon always takes pictures when they deliver. I'd like to know when that package was delivered and if there's a picture of it and is that doorbell in the picture or not. I'm thinking out loud here.
 
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Issues. Properties are spaced apart, and many are set back from the road, and kind of offset.

So there's a long distance between cameras and roadways, and there tends to be desert brush in between.
Yeah i think their best bet is from business cameras and busy intersections in the general vicinity but not necessarily in NG’s immediate neighborhood. It could be more about knowing a specific vehicle is where it shouldn’t be during a particular time rather than trying to track down and identify random vehicles and who they belong to. Still takes time but I would think they would be pretty far along at this point in retrieving relevant images. jmo
 
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So I am fairly sure some of the homes in this have cams to the outside. I haven't seen any news regarding looking at door cams of neighbors etc.
It has been reported that there is so much landscaping and visitation in front of and to the sides of these homes that it impedes the street view of most cameras.
 
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I've been reading a lot here, decided to chime in. Weirdly, like SG, I have a journalism degree and am a lawyer (though not criminal).

Based on all the info I've seen so far, including AB'S allegations from her tip, statistics of crimes being a known person or family etc., I am thinking it is SIL in my opinion. Knowing where cameras are and to remove them, seeming to know about a back door, being in the house for about 40 minutes, makes me think it was someone she knew. They didn't rob her during that time, maybe even were speaking to her during that time, and she didn't call 911 during those 40 minutes.

Also motive. I'm thinking maybe there was resentment with caretaking responsibilities because the siblings live far away (and one is off living a glamorous life). Life insurance could have been a big motive too (also explains why the home wasn't robbed, they'd inherit belongings anyway). I hate to say it but AG would be the only alibi for SIL being gone in the middle of the night. Maybe she was in on it? They were the last ones to see her, so they say.

I also think if it was a real kidnapping for ransom originally, the ransom note would have come much sooner, as soon as the story became public. Maybe once they realized how big this story became in the media they decided after the fact to throw that ransom note in as a distraction or just a stupid, scared move. I have middle schoolers and they know more about bitcoin and computers than me just through watching YouTube. I'm sure a 6th grade teacher and parent of a teen/pre-teen would pick up knowledge like that, and science teachers these days need to be pretty tech-savvy. Or maybe the ransom notes are hoaxes that are not from the perp. Again, all just my opinion.

My other thought would be a worker very familiar with the house, who discovered who she is/who her daughter is and who decided to kidnap her to get money out of SG.
 
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the last big case i followed was erin corwin and they let lee get all the way to alaska before finally arresting him!
The suspects in the Rhoden murders (and perhaps the eventual proclaimed killer, but don't quote me) also were allowed to hare off to Alaska... I guess you can't really stop a non-convicted criminal from leaving the area.
 
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i honestly feel that the ransom note is legit, guys. and i never ever believe in the craziest theories.

i don't think it would be this hard for LE to figure out if it was a hoax or if the SIL was involved, especially with the FBI heavily working this case.
 
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