AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[zecats]

I asked the same thing earlier, about ubering there and getting a ride home. Someone else commented that is not 'odd'. I wasn't implying it was, but in this particular situation, you have a woman who was taken from her home while bleeding that same night, it begs for an answer.

Me myself, due to mobility/pain issues, sometimes drives, sometimes takes uber or gets a ride, possibly was the case with NG as well, and perfectly understandable. Maybe if she was going to drink, she wanted to take car out of the equation, or maybe understandably doesn't like to drive in the dark. Or, in the worse case scenario, planned to take an uber, but was instead offered a ride home for nefarious reasons.

IMO it sounds like a matter of convenience for all. Uber picks her up at her door and drops her at daughter’s house. Family member (SIL) drives her home after dark and due to lateness of hour. Maybe a regular occurrence.
My son-in-law often schedules Uber for me when I train travel to North Jersey to visit them. It involves a change of trains and if wait time is too long between trains, he gets me a ride . Plus I am often towing heavy luggage. I have never ordered one myself but have ridden Uber frequently.

 

[Sadi]

door numero uno for me, Monty

Me too, haven’t swayed at all.

 

[waldojabba]

When discussing imminent updates, a reporter asked Trump whether there would be nationwide searches. Trump responded "I'm not talking about a search, I'm talking about a solution". Is this a clue that this may be a genuine ransom situation?

I think his wording was awkward.
He usually just shoots from the hip and says whatever comes to mind or catches his eye.
I think he wanted to let the “cat out of the bag” but was able to exert impulse control.

So I think he meant resolution not solution. Resolution as in an arrest.

JMO but who knows

 

[Donswife48]

Spitballing:

It's tax season.
Financial institutions including banks, brokerage firms, charitable organizations, etc., are sending out end-of-year statements detailing interest income, capital gains, etc.

Many people, seniors included, get help with managing their finances, and some even turn the keys over to trusted individuals...even when people don't volitionally give people access to their financials, sometimes people gain access to credit card numbers, SSNs, etc., and see/withdraw or otherwise steal money without the account owner's knowledge or consent.

Financial exploitation of the elderly is a real thing. The consequences of financial crimes are also real.
I hope LE is doing their due diligence to look at NG's finances and ticking off the boxes to ensure she hasn't been victimized there as well.

JMO.

I worked for a CPA firm for 51 years. We would never give thought to exploiting our clients. People with modest incomes as well as high incomes especially those that have lived in the area for 50 yrs have long established professionals they work with all the time. JMO

 

[Fromeaster]

If she had been kidnapped, there would have been clear instructions and an ultimatum from the kidnapper within 24 hours. I don't believe anyone kidnapped her.

 

[deadlyaloeplant]

Y'all... I think NG is dead. It's true that there's people that have been released from captivity after some time but I have also read that most kidnapping victims are dead within that first 48 hours.
I really don't believe these ransom notes are anything but a smokescreen.
I'm going for the best but thinking the worst.

 

[missy1974]

We either have to take the case at face value, that the kidnapper took her for ransom as they have indicated or the taking her for ransom is a manufactured story to stall, throw off to conceal another related crime. At this point we really have to work it as its being portrayed and go from there. LE will slowly rule in or out each detail. Im holding on to faith that shes ok and a break soon!!

Let's say they did the ransom letter to stall, or delay the search.

They send the 1st one on Monday with clear deadlines and say they will not communicate again. They have not been found as of yesterday. So why send the 2nd one? The 1st is already creating the delay, has deadlines, the 2nd one, we don't know what is in it, but the reporter from the local news said it had no new deadlines in it. I don't know why they would bother with the 2nd one if the 1st one was already accomplishing the distraction.

JMO

 

[Sadi]

Why would NG enter her home via the garage and not the front door? This has been bothering me. The entire garage situation is bothering g me.

Easier due to no steps or if any, maybe one? Overhead garage light would help to see better than outside since it’s so dark. MOO

 

[mikeshanty]

I think his wording was awkward.
He usually just shoots from the hip and says whatever comes to mind or catches his eye.
I think he wanted to let the “cat out of the bag” but was able to exert impulse control.

So I think he meant resolution not solution. Resolution as in an arrest.

JMO but who knows

Ah understood! I'm not in the USA so you have a better sense as to how he speaks.

 

[Moonchime]

i'd love your opinions on which of these scenarios, A or B is more likely:

A: LE was completely incompetent in releasing the house as a crime scene so quickly, neglecting flood light/camera/vehicle evidence and g-d knows what else

B: LE purposely lifted the crime scene tape early on to see who would taint with possible evidence, take item(s) from the home that had evidential meaning beneath the surface, or replace/leave items with potential importance

Hopefully, it is Scenario B. I'd like to think they surreptitiously hid tiny cameras in every room.

 

[dogmom805]

We discussed earlier that Silence of the Lambs was released on 31 Jan and 1 Feb 1

OMG. Chilling.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Maybe the perp was hiding in her car, in the garage from an earlier time?

Could have been someone who had a key to her place, or had one briefly and duplicated it.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Chainspell]

Why would NG enter her home via the garage and not the front door? This has been bothering me. The entire garage situation is bothering g me.

Convenience/might be easier to walk in, especially if it's brightly lit and requires less steps. From footage we've seen, there would be enough room to pull another car in, putting her very close to the door from inside the garage into the house.

 

[Strangeworld]

To me the proof is that it went to TMZ, assuming since they are the ones that broke that story I dont think L/e would send it to them .

Regardless of whether the person/s who sent the ransom letters have Nancy or not, its interesting that they took the public route - and TMZ get attention worldwide. IMO if they did kidnap Nancy, they maybe wanted this to fuel the fire to pay the ransom.

If they aren't legitimate, or its a distraction by someone who has committed a separate crime against Nancy, is also worth pondering that they went so public.

They could have just sent the letters directly and only to LE and/or the family. Instead they went the media route.

it speaks to motivation and intention

 

[turaj]

Why would NG enter her home via the garage and not the front door? This has been bothering me. The entire garage situation is bothering g me.

many people do that..nothing noteworthy about it in my opinion.

 

[tbgo]

According to Google, Bitcoin can be trace by the government. If the family paid the ransom, they could arrest the person and retrieve the money.

 

[Cardgame]

I'm not the person you're asking, but I do think it's important to understand that there's a whole range of ways to hide your origin on the internet. Even under the umbrella of "VPN" there are a lot of pretty different things that the term encompasses. Long before there was ExpressVPN and all these consumer "privacy" VPNs, VPN was used to securely connect networks together. And today, yeah, if sign up through a reputable VPN service based in a Western country, and use that to commit crimes, it's probably not going to go well for you. Another step down the line is a VPN service based in, say, Russia or India. Maybe not impossible to trace, but it's going to be a bit harder. Now, do multiple hops through multiple sketchy providers. A bit harder still. Next, maybe set up your own VPN, hopping through cloud providers (maybe in compromised accounts). Or route your traffic through compromised PCs on residential networks, or a series of rogue proxy servers.

Imagine this scenario. I park somewhere in the parking lot of a mall. I use a high-gain antenna to connect to an open wifi network that some store or restaurant in the mall is running. I proxy through Russia, India, back to a different Russian proxy, and finally exit through a compromised windows computer in some innocent person's house in Michigan. The only thing I do through that proxy is open news station tips forms (NO access to an email account or anything else), and submit a plain text tip through the form. Yeah, this takes some work to do, but you don't have to be a genius. There's a lot of information out there on these things and it's not that buried. This would be quite difficult and time-consuming to track down. And honestly you probably don't need to make it this convoluted to hide effectively.

While it's 1000% true that many people get caught while doing things that they think are untraceable, it's also true that it isn't that hard to make it pretty difficult or potentially impossible for investigators. I know it's comforting to believe that the feds can trace anyone, it's not true. They can trace a lot more than most people think, and most criminals make enough mistakes to get caught, but it's not rocket science to hide.

MOO - I know I am not verified as an expert and I don't really know exactly what the boundaries of the rules are on this, so let's just say this is my opinion and leave it at that.

This is extremely helpful and informative, thank you so much!

 

[Skully7100]

Why would NG enter her home via the garage and not the front door? This has been bothering me. The entire garage situation is bothering g me.

I never use my front door, only enter thru garage.

 

[Cardgame]

According to Google, Bitcoin can be trace by the government. If the family paid the ransom, they could arrest the person and retrieve the money.

Yes I've seen a few interviews now with cyber experts who say Bitcoin is the most traceable crypt currency. The problem will come when/if they try to liquidate.

That's why some people think it might be a troll..

 

[ttjo]

many people do that..nothing noteworthy about it in my opinion.

Did she have a walker? A lot more room going in through the garage?