AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[turaj]

SG's Instagram video. I guess there was a very serious threat in the latest communication by the "we understand" comment.

Boy the latest video is heartbreaking. They are so scared and I think there was a major threat in the note yesterday and ransom being paid right now. They were so sad I almost wonder if they just want to get the body back. It was really hard to know what is happening.

 

[mikeshanty]

And I note SG is wearing black. Maybe a necklace from NG.

She wore black in the first video earlier in the week. It's possible they have known early on NG is dead. If that is the case, we still do not know.

 

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We received your message, and we understand. We beg you now to return our mother to us so that we can celebrate with her. This is the only way we will have peace. This is very valuable to us, and we will pay

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Thank you for this. The immense sorrow and pain in her son, Cameron's eyes, tells me what has happened. Nancy is deceased. They need her back for peace and to celebrate her life. Make her a full circle of their love.

 

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$650k home purchased in Mar 2025. $140k home sold in Jun 2025. I don't know what they owed to their mortgage company to close out that loan. Plus, there are realtor and closing costs. If nothing else, they needed this $300k in the bank well before they closed in March. They had to get it from some place. Maybe, they saved that money. Maybe, they borrowed it from the NG with the promise to pay her back as soon as their house sold.

I do know that when we loaned our son a substantial amount of money to purchase his home, we had to sign a document stating that the money was a "gift" to him. The mortgage company wanted to make sure that there was not another major loan debt that had to be paid.

If NG lent them this amount of money, she surely would have had to do the same. Of course, some family members will honor their debts. Others stall and pay partial or won't pay at all. Who knows?

Just throwing that out there for consideration.

JMO.

The current home was contingent on them selling the old house. It easily pencils out for them not needing any help as long as they didn't have a high debt to income. Which they likely didn't given the underwriters approved them and nobody else is on the loan. They didn't seem to be in any financial distress with the home.

 

[Sessiebo]

JMO - I'm trying to read the body language in the video without sound and i know i will get so much hate for this but am i the only one thinking AG is trying to push some tears out in a very unnatural way?
I know everyone reacts differently in these situations and they must be exhausted but i just noticed this and wondered if anyone saw this too or if it's just me imagining things.
Idk what to think anymore, the whole thing is so confusing and all i hope is that Nancy comes home

 

[BigCityAccountant1]

awwww my heart breaks for the family.

I don't even know what to think.

I'm with you Missy---just wow oh wow.

 

[Charlot123]

You may not want to read this theory

Spoiler: Graphic

it is possible that the kidnappers cut off a finger tip or some other part (like piece of ear) at the time of kidnapping. The second note said where to find where they left it at time of kidnapping. The threat is to send their mother back in pieces.

They are risking a lot doing it to an 84-year old woman with high blood pressure, a pacemaker and other issues, in a desert.

Of course they may be total idiots who don't care, not professional kidnappers.

 

[Aquabot13]

I think NG could still be alive despite the defeat on the kids' faces. Even if she's returned alive, they're not out of the woods unless the FBI/police actually catch the person who did it. And even then, how do you recover from this?

They might have more information about the motive from the communication they've had with the kidnapper(s) - if it ends up being targeted, surely they're worried about themselves and their kids as well.

MOO

 

[gammagirl]

I feel like whatever they discovered on the property was proof that they had her and proof that she was dead. They are paying for her remains.... so sad. MOO

 

[MommaV]

Sorry if this has been talked about or verified, but do they think device on roof was planted by kidnappers?

 

[StarryStarryNight]

You may not want to read this theory

Spoiler: Graphic

it is possible that the kidnappers cut off a finger tip or some other part (like piece of ear) at the time of kidnapping. The second note said where to find where they left it at time of kidnapping. The threat is to send their mother back in pieces.

I would think in this supposed situation the family would appear frantic rather than sad. The wording “this is valuable to us” rather than “our mother is valuable to us” I think says it all.

 

[whitelilac]

"This" is very valuable to us.
This as in laying Nancy to rest, and being able to honor and visit her, bring her flowers, speak to her.

I hope I'm wrong in my interpretation of the words SG said.

 

[Chainspell]

Sorry if this has been talked about or verified, but do they think device on roof was planted by kidnappers?

We don't know, I've seen it speculated here, though.

 

[FoldInTheCheese]

I was struck by the “this is very valuable to us”. Does that mean anything else on the surface? Seemed odd.

Wow. They will pay. This is crazy.

Her body

 

[Qbert]

I get this vibe too but why would a kidnapper who hasn't received payment reveal she's dead? That's their only leverage. If they were that desperate to get paid they would've provided proof of life. Could this be some sign of remorse by the author of the ransom?

I think having the body still means a lot. It allows loved ones to truly grieve, find a sense of closure, and honor and celebrate a life by laying someone they love to rest in a meaningful way.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Literally this could be a national security issue if this crap gets out of hand. Imagine terrorists orgs, China, Russia watching right now. They are already plotting who to kidnap.

groan. And I am sure you and I are not the only two thinking about this BIG TIME.
It is just beyond belief how this might mushroom cloud.

 

[Fromeaster]

Returning the body means admitting murder, it's not the same as returning her alive. What's the point of taking a risk with the body if technology will follow the path of money? I don't believe it.

 

[Wsimm]

The latest family video is definitely scripted, but also comes of as some formality? I almost get the feeling they are speaking to someone from another country or continent?

 

[thefragile7393]

There has been NO confirmation from the police that it was a forced entry

There has been NO confirmation from the police that her medical supplies were left at home.

The sheriff Nanos had confirmed this

Yes, she could still be alive

There has been NO police speaking to the media, so we know what the latest facts are about the disappearance of Nancy.
Instead, a lot is just Media speculation

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she is pointing out what she's heard. That's all. we all know what the sherriff is saying.

 

[txsleuth70]

My make-believe detective self would love for the siblings video to be a massive decoy that was just made as a distraction while the FBI gets what they need to make an arrest. I can see them disclosing the decoy just to SG. Rambling thoughts…

At the 2nd presser LE firmly said that no one in the family was a suspect. The next day a journalist asked him about TC, he said that they were looking at everyone.

Shifting statements.

Yes, shifting!! This is hypothetical and crazy BUT...What if the ransom scheme is a secret diversional ploy by LE to flush out the real perp? Like maybe LE thinks it IS a fam member who has done this for financial gain/insurance, etc. and this phony ransom scheme was thrown in to flush them out. Maybe they're (the perp) getting a little twitchy worrying if the sibs use any of NG's money/assets toward paying a fake ransom scheme then there won't be any money left to really collect from her estate after they find her deceased?

Sounds outlandish ofc and this would be door #5 in reality lol but this entire situation is just so anything is possible at this point! Praying NG is still alive and in a hotel/motel room somewhere and they give up her location when they receive the bitcoin!