AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Harvey said that “maybe they’re (LE) looking for a really intelligent person, who’s text savvy and who also has gone missing in the last week”. He also went on to say the letter is “constructed well, it’s layered, it’s grammatically all correct”. It appears the letter comes from a sophisticated, intelligent person.
OR it comes from chat GPT?
 
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Re: the doorbell detecting someone before 2am, LE has reported around 945pm the garage door opened for 2 minutes and then closed. They don't tell us anything prior to that. My understanding was that the doorbell cam wrote over itself after a certain period of time because she didn't have a subscription? So they only have a certain number of hours data available.
What if the garage door was opened long enough to go inside, get the car keys, and drive NG's car someplace else
 
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NBC News summary of the case thus far.
 
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Reason to pay now... adds to opportunity to discover who has demanded ransom

If the bitcoin can be traced.
 
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The family doesn't know if they will get NG back. They have likely paid by now. Emotionally things are about as bad as can be. Hoping for the best.
 
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Yep. It really strikes me as some sick person that's giddy they're causing so much suffering for the family, and loves having it aired out publicly. And probably gleeful they've outsmarted law enforcement thus far.
Yes I agree, sadistic mind games.
 
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Earlier today someone pointed out that the day Nancy was abducted was the 35th anniversary of the movie’s release.
That's false. It was released on February 14, 1991
 
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I'm sure everyone has seen and heard Savannah's last message to the abductors linked here. It's absolutely heartbreaking. 💔

What this says to me" "We received your message, and we understand" sounds like they sent them another message that their mother is deceased, she didn't make it without her meds. "They understand".

Begging for her to be returned, as it's "the only way we will have peace", says to me they simply want her body back, getting their mom back, even though deceased, is "very valuable to them", and for that they "will pay" [the ransom].

“We received your message, and we understand. We beg you now to return our mother to us so that we can celebrate with her. This is . This is very valuable to us, and we will pay.”

Nothing about this is sitting well with me. Not one thing. I do NOT like that they were beaten down mentally to have to resort to begging. Begging the very people who are responsible for her pain, her misery, her death, and the pain and misery of her family that will NEVER go away. And all for what??? GREED!!! They ONLY cared about themselves and living the high life off BAD money. Well, what about NANCY's life?? She did NOTHING to deserve this!!

This is beyond reprehensible to me. God I hope I'm wrong and that she'll be returned alive. But as the days go on, and it's now mere hours to it being a week without necessary medication to keep her alive, I think all of our hopes and dreams are about to be smashed, unfortunately. 😢

I hope they rot in hell for eternity. But more than that, I hope that I am wrong.
This--I couldn't agree more. I actually posted something very similar to this. But I thought--but didn't post is that God will be the judge of them. I like how you said it--I too hope they rot in hell---before and after they take their last breath.
 
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I noticed this time SG didn't have a sheet of paper in front of her. SG spoke softly and a delivered a well rehearsed message.The three sat closer together and struggled to look at the camera. They all looked utterly exhausted and defeated.

Prayers up for their family, they look to be at their breaking point.

JMO
Yes they must have closure.
 
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I have the feeling the purported kidnapper is enjoying the attention, and the tension this story is atracting world-wide. Furthermore, I don't think he/she has any intention of cutting the attention off soon.

I predict there will be another message that drops just about the time the Superbowl starts, or at half-time.

When he/she accepts the offer, the balance of power changes substantially.
 
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i just looked for myself and google says Feb 14.
Maybe whoever posted that can clarify.
I searched as well and found this:

The Silence of the Lambs had its initial, exclusive premiere in New York City on January 30, 1991, followed by a Los Angeles gala on February 1, 1991. The critically acclaimed thriller, starring Jodie Foster and Anthony Hopkins, officially opened in theaters nationwide on February 14, 1991.
 
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Honestly at this point LE had BETTER know way more than they're letting on. It's alarming that someone can get away with this for so long despite all the resources of SG/the FBI.

LE hasn't made any real comment about public safety, but if they don't get a handle on this ASAP I would consider the revelation of this vulnerability a huge public safety issue.

MOO
My opinion is that LE absolutely knows almost everything or everything and they are now gathering solid evidence so that the arrest(s) will lead to a conviction. JMO
 
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MODNOTE:

Making sure everyone understands NO POLITICS.

Don't make me spend YET ANOTHER evening deleting stuff that doesn't help Nancy.
 
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I mean if not an insider my next guess at this point is a total weirdo like Brian Koberger. No real motive other than i think I can do this. A pitiful loser who needs power.
 
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This posts falls at random

MODNOTE:

Making sure everyone understands NO POLITICS.

Don't make me spend YET ANOTHER evening deleting stuff that doesn't help Nancy.
Thank you... AGAIN!
 
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Is there any way LE would have cleared SIL by now? If he was the last person to see her alive, I assume this makes it very difficult indeed to clear him unless there is clear digital evidence of no link?
 
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Celebrate with her... in other words celebrate with her body present.

Although Christians firmly believe the body is just the vessel, when it's your own beloved family member it's different.
As a Catholic and a Christian, the 'funerals' of the past are now more often called "a Celebration of Life." Maybe not everywhere, but here in the midwest anyhow...
 
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i feel it looked like a family who had seen a body part.... moo
I can see that horrifying possibility too. John Paul Getty III comes to mind.
 

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