AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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If this happened to Jane Doe’s mom in Wisconsin I’m guessing the majority of us wouldn’t be here posting our comments? Many who only watch their local news may have zero knowledge of this tragedy even occurring, depending on the news day in their area. That this is happening to SG’s mom I find a bit strategic and well planned. Jane Doe’s mom = no attention….SG’s mom = off the chart attention.

Yes, it became high-profile because of SG. Would it make us feel differently on hearing that another elderly person was kidnapped in Wisconsin? No. And I hope newspapers would have the decency of keeping us posted about any old person who was abducted from own house at night.

Also, human sympathy for the children who highly likely, it seems, have lost their only parent, the mom, and in such horrible circumstances, is fully understood and expected.

As a Christian, a funeral is often called a "celebration of life" and "the only way we will have peace" may mean "closure" - at least they will have their Mother home, properly buried; rather than always being tortured by "where is she". Just my opinions fwiw.

It is not about Christianity, it is about different cultural traditions. Atheists use this term as well as Protestants. Catholics and Eastern Orthodox mostly do not. In essence, it describes less ritualistic form of the funerals. As funerals tend to become such, maybe the term will spread. (It is not commonly used in Europe). But yes, this is how I understood SG's phrase: that they would need the body for the funerals.

However, I don't know whom SG is addressing, and whoever scripted the text. It has to be explained as the term might be misinterpreted. Likely SG knows that she is addressing Episcopalian Americans. This is how I interpret it.

If not, the term may be totally misunderstood, btw.
 
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Ive been away about an hour. Have you websleuths cracked the case yet or what?
 
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I beleive the alleged kidnapper made rules for specific ways to communicate. JMO
It seems like this for sure, the responses don’t seem very organic or “real” -if that makes sense
 
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Praying so hard this has a good outcome. I hope the people who have Nancy aren't screwing with her family. I hope she is returned safe.
 
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From one of the livestreams, Private Security at Nancy's property stated nothing is happening they are just "checking in" on the property.
 
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I’m not normally a pearl-clutcher but I am appalled at the comments I’ve seen wondering why the family didn’t pay the ransom immediately. How dare people question what someone else does in an impossible situation. It is very much coming off as blaming the family for whatever may happen to Nancy by their inaction. What if they demanded more money than the family could come up with immediately? What if they felt or were advised that paying immediately without proof of life would completely remove any leverage they have to get their mother back? What if they understand the wide-ranging precedent that paying the ransom might set for millions of other innocent people, and are having to make the agonizing choice of being purely selfish and paying to get their mom back, or making the choice not to pay but risk losing her, so that other people won’t have to deal with copycat crimes now that they’ve made it known to the world that there are people out there that would pay?
 
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Are you sure of this? I am seeing feb 14.
I was responding to someone else's post who said it was 30 January or something. I already addressed the Silence of the Lambs connection earlier in this thread; my view is that it was wording from a FBI playbook that has been tested as effective in these situations.
 
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Dbm
 
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Is there any way LE would have cleared SIL by now? If he was the last person to see her alive, I assume this makes it very difficult indeed to clear him unless there is clear digital evidence of no link?


Good point MikeShanty - you would think, given the massive speculation, that had he been cleared, an official statement would be made.
 
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The police showed up because someone called and accused JLR Investigates of trespassing (youtube streamer)
 
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Does anyone know if we are allowed to share JLR's live on Youtube? He is at he scene at the house right now live. Hoping a mod see's this as I'm not sure what Youtubes are allowed or not.

EDIT: NVM he is not allowed found out another way,
 
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Looking at the current footage of the house from live feeds now. I know it's dark, but there seem to be very few police cars around the house and nothing taping off the driveway or boundaries to the house or really anyone guarding the property. Is that standard? In my country, where a property is the scene of something very serious or high-profile, it would usually be taped off / boarded up / police guards while there is intense media attention.
 
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The police showed up because someone called and accused JLR Investigates of trespassing (youtube streamer)

Oh dear! Am so not surprised by that...JLR will do almost anything in pursuit of 'boots on the ground'
 
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If she was killed in her house and her body was there for a few hours, would the pacemaker still have synced with the apple watch? Meaning could that last sync with the watch at 2:20 have happened when she was in the house but already dead?
 
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Taking a moment because this isn't Season 4 on Netflix. A real family, a real Grandma, a real nightmare. Whether this was one crime or two, this part is twice ruthless. IMO no one intended to hold her hostage nor return her. Whoever is behind this, it's the rawest clash of good and evil, playing on heartbroken people's emotions. Extortion of the highest order. Or lowest.

Sometime I wonder if we're even the same species.

JMO
It doesn't seem real, does it?
 
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Is there any way LE would have cleared SIL by now? If he was the last person to see her alive, I assume this makes it very difficult indeed to clear him unless there is clear digital evidence of no link?
If they have, they haven’t announced it publicly
 

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