Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[MassGuy]

SG net worth is estimated at over $40 million. Should have paid immediately IMO.

She should have paid a possible scammer untold millions immediately, with zero proof of life?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I have no idea where this case is going, so I wanted to see if updates on the Scottsdale crypto attempted heist.

https://www.theblock.co/post/388958/teens-face-felony-charges-after-600-mile-drive-to-allegedly-attempt-a-66-million-crypto-robbery-reports

Both teens were initially held in a Maricopa County juvenile detention facility and are slated to be tried as adults. They each face eight charges, including kidnapping, aggravated assault, and second-degree burglary. The 17-year-old faces an additional charge of unlawful flight from law enforcement. Both were released on $50,000 bail with ankle monitors, FOX 10 reported.
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The case bears hallmarks of an emerging pattern in which anonymous figures recruit teenagers via encrypted messaging platforms to carry out violent crypto heists. In May, two 16-year-olds from Florida were charged with 22 felonies after allegedly kidnapping a man at gunpoint following a Las Vegas crypto event, driving him to a remote Arizona desert, and stealing $4 million in digital assets. In that case, prosecutors said a fourth person appeared to be directing the teens via speakerphone.
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The Scottsdale incident is the first wrench attack of 2026 in the United States logged in a public databaseof physical attacks on crypto holders maintained by security researcher Jameson Lopp.…..
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Experts have attributed the rise in part to corporate data breaches that expose customers' personal details. In this publication's year-end analysis, The Block reported that the 2025 Coinbase breach, in which rogue customer service representatives accessed KYC data for many users, has been cited by security professionals as a factor putting additional targets in criminals' sights.
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[cady]

I understand why that are guarding the house, but are all those cars LE?

 

[MCB1151]

Yep. It really strikes me as some sick person that's giddy they're causing so much suffering for the family, and loves having it aired out publicly. And probably gleeful they've outsmarted law enforcement thus far.

Just complete power move. It's so gross.

 

[MassGuy]

I understand why that are guarding the house, but are all those cars LE?

Almost all media.

 

[PipeyRella]

The guy they spoke to was from JLR Investigates. He is a PI and has a YT channel. I saw something with those initials and went to his YT channel. He is live in front of the house right now and LE pulled him aside and told him no trespassing---even though he wasn't tresspassing. He said he believes someone was watching his live stream and called it in. LE also spoke to several of the other media persons on scene to not tresspass as well. But JLR said LE knew his name.

let's just assume that this is true...that the perp is watching JLR's livestreams, this is wild. I know he is speculating but wow. If true, makes it seem like JLR reported about something that was a bit too close for comfort. Just told my bf we will be telling our children about this case when they're adults and they'll be amazed we watched it unfold real time. just wild.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

If she was killed in her house and her body was there for a few hours, would the pacemaker still have synced with the apple watch? Meaning could that last sync with the watch at 2:20 have happened when she was in the house but already dead?

Birdbox: Yes. I have been involved with a study and even if death, the pacemaker will still sync.

If she was killed in her house and her body was there for a few hours, would the pacemaker still have synced with the apple watch? Meaning could that last sync with the watch at 2:20 have happened when she was in the house but already dead?

Birdbox: If she was killed in the house and still within 30fr of the watch, it would have shown flatline data and they woukd have concluded early on she was dead. Its my understanding they had active heart data until she moved away from watch and phone etc. Thats why they think she left alive

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Very helpful information. Thank you, birdbox.

 

[SouthernSummer]

This is just so awful. I feel so bad for them.

 

[outloudthink]

Just complete power move. It's so gross.

A sociopath who is by now bored.

 

[TheDinks]

I have STS Live on at the mo'

Best guests lol... interesting commentary from Dr Casey Jordan with much experience in these matters incl body language etc (she's talking about garage door right now)

Just wish Joel would say a bit less right now and let the experts have their say!!

 

[Baba O'Riley]

Of the dead body has DNA of kidnappers how wouldn't the alive human???

I meant the abductor's DNA not NG.

 

[SouthernSummer]

Wow that's nuts. It always amazes me how they were able to solve cases like that back then. Just good old fashioned detective work.

Fortunately, true kidnapping for ransom involving low-risk people has fallen off a cliff thanks to modern technology.

Not in Mexico. It’s just not publicized

 

[cady]

I hope for her sake and her kids that she died at the house and has not suffered for a week. This is so very sick.

 

[MassGuy]

Not in Mexico. It’s just not publicized

I'm talking about the United States. That stuff happens every day in Mexico.

 

[karen in New York]

If the body is on the property, the dogs would be able find it. Are they even using the dogs?

Plus the odor. After all this time neighbors would be overwhelmed with bad smells.

I hesitate before posting this, but it's something I can't really shake from my mind and your post reminded me of it again.

The first day the photos were shown to the public I went to the Daily Mail online website and scrolled through some of the comments, taking most with a huge grain of salt; however, one of the comments stood out. It was about the blood by the front door. Someone (who may have not know what the heck they were talking about) said with some degree of confidence (again, stranger on the internet so consider the source): the blood appears to have been blood that was aspirated.

My apologies to any and all if this is inappropriate speculation.

Or a bloody nose or cut on your hand.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020330577879265364

 

[Charlot123]

If the kidnappers gave that information away, they are utter idiots. The smart thing to do would have been to keep quiet on the death and just insist on payment for Nancy's return, then just disappear with the ransom and leave the Guthries with nothing.

Respectfully, we were not in the house. I would not be surprised if these were just robbers or such who witnessed a natural event at night and essentially, staged the abduction of a live body. Maybe there were some signs left in the house. We really don't know how it all looked.

Someone here remembered Kelsey Berreth's case. I remember what her mom said at the beginning and how she presented herself. From what I understand, the house looked very different after Kelsey's "dissappearance" than what the mother had said.

 

[Beans]

SG net worth is estimated at over $40 million. Should have paid immediately IMO.

Net worth and actual available cash / banked wealth are often quite different things. It probably doesn't mean she has $40m sitting in her account.

 

[MassGuy]

Millions? How do you know? What if it was a demand for $200,000?
Instead by not paying she has likely caused the death of her mother.

Because the outlets who received them said it was "millions of dollars."

Again, you do not pay someone who will not give you proof of life. That's a key requirement in any negotiation.

 

[ldlager]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020330577879265364

That’s the right place to be.