AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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if he is involved I think it is not him but someone that he knows.
This same thought just crossed my mind

moo
 
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There is simply proof that an elderly woman is missing under suspicious circumstances. There is proof that there is a ransom being demanded. There are indicators of foul play. To automatically link all of those together into one crime being committed by a single perp/group of perps would be doing an injustice to the investigation IMO

The behavior of the involved actors indicates pretty clearly that the investigation has surmised that the kidnapping and ransom claim is legitimate. Reasoning and objectivity suggest this. This isn't a ruse to catch the real perp. SG isn't in on a LE effort to entrap her BIL or some other person. Ashleigh Banfield is neither a plant nor an authority. This is real life with real procedures to follow. Procedures that must be followed transparently or a perp will not get convicted.

Anything other than what we have seen with our own eyes the past week, or what has been happening before our own eyes for the past week, is hunch-based and perhaps even rationalizations to justify a presupposed bias or a misguided trust in an external actor's credibility and/or entirely anonymous sourcing.

JMO.
 
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Might this be the visit that was intended last night when no-one was home?
I wonder if there is a forensics vehicle like there was last night?
There was a forensics vehicle there last night as per pictures posted by reporters.
 
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The behavior of the involved actors indicates pretty clearly that the investigation has surmised that the kidnapping and ransom claim is legitimate. Reasoning and objectivity suggest this. This isn't a ruse to catch the real perp. SG isn't in on a LE effort to trap her BIL or some other person. Ashleigh Banfield is neither a plant nor an authority. This is real life with real procedures to follow. Procedures that must be followed transparently or a perp will not get convicted.

Anything other than what we have seen with our own eyes the past week, or what has been happening before our own eyes for the past week, is hunch-based and perhaps even rationalizations to justify a presupposed bias or a misguided trust in an external actor's credibility and/or entirely anonymous sourcing.

JMO.
Exactly. Procedures must be followed or potential evidence will be thrown out.
 
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I thought it looked more like a light turned on and then off.
Could it be a different kind of camera flash?

Forensic teams detect latent blood at crime scenes using chemical reagents
which produce a blue-white, chemiluminescent glow in total darkness. Cameras, often equipped with tripods and set to high ISO (e.g., ISO 400), are used to record this fleeting luminescence to document evidence.
 
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Do we know if the family members are in the house, or have they remained in hotels?
 
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They're definitely taking photos imo. I wonder of what- stains?
I didn’t even want to think this could be the answer. I still hope not, but it’s not looking good.
 
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Msy need to sell the upstate property
Proof of kidnapping isn't enough? Isn't that a risk someone would have to absorb at that point?

JMO - if there is a kidnapping followed by ransom letters, a person of SG's standing would probably go through professional negotiators.

I'd assume that she follows their advices, and if they say that the letters are bogus, or that the chance of getting her mom is nil, she'd probably go by what they tell her to do.

I think that there are professionals in any field.
 
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Thats what i was wondering but Not sure how they do it now or what light they use.
Could they be taking photos of what the luminol looked like in the dark, thereby creating the flashes we're seeing?
 
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I think that's a very strong possibility.
That's exactly what it looks like - there is darkness and a light source then flashes. Wow!

This just made my tummy sink, I know we've talked about the possibility of family involvement, but in reality I truly hope not :(
 
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There was a forensics vehicle there last night as per pictures posted by reporters.
I wonder if they had to get a warrant to do whatever it is they are doing tonight - in the garage.
 
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They're taking pictures in the dark. My guess would be probably to reveal luminol traces.

This is my guess as well.
Well then it seems SIL has been the focus all along if this is true? Why would they luminol otherwise. He hasn't been seen I was wondering if he was in jail but then that makes no sense because why would SG and siblings release another video? I still keep thinking back to the post on here about his band mate needing to be seriously looked at, that was such a random thing, why him? Not even sure where it came from.
 
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if he is involved I think it is not him but someone that he knows.
Where is he and how does this play into the videos we have been seeing?
 
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