Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Bodhi]

They did look hopeless, however in that interview with KOLD-TV and Erin Burnett, the KOLD-TV reporter said that they can only receive text, no pictures or videos. So I don't think they saw a

I agree, they did look hopeless. However in the interview with Erin Burnett (CNN) the KOLD-TV reporter said that they can only receive text, no images or videos.

Someone suggested that the submission yesterday prompted them to go back to search the yard yesterday afternoon for something small like that.

 

[HmmMysterious]

But wasn’t her watch at home? My brain is mush.

Nancy's blood was found near the entrance of her home. I think she did make it back but didn't emerge alive again.

 

[TIGER0822]

Watch the ‘We received your message” video without sound and focus on the sisters reaction.

 

[Vegasgrl]

But wasn’t her watch at home? My brain is mush.

If she never left AG home, her watch did, and it was part of the staging at her home. So, it would disconnect from her pacemaker connection.

 

[dogmom805]

YES!!! THIS! I don't think Nancy ever made it home.

Or someone turned her watch "off".

 

[emigrate]

YES!!! THIS! I don't think Nancy ever made it home.

So she maybe wore watch to AG home and they took the watch to NG home? I wonder if it happened at AGs and SIL took watch to her home and the proceeded to smash cams etc. But then what about the white van, NGs car having damage and the newly found cameras? Ideas? I realize we are all just antsy over what is going on at AGs and are thinking the worst and SIL is not named so if this is not allowed I am fine with it being deleted.

 

[TheDinks]

I just read this:

Luminol requires near-total or complete darkness to be effective, as it produces a faint, short-lived (approx. 30 seconds) blue-white chemiluminescent glow upon reacting with the iron in hemoglobin.

Yes and using Luminol and similar products is done to look for evidence as opposed to ruling out.

I just don't think using such substances are being used to 'rule out' - spraying it everywhere just to rule out there are no bodily fluids present! Hence my response about timing was addressing the 'ruling out' post.

 

[Beans]

Wasn't it the phone that disconnected from the pacemaker app rather than the watch? The watch was mentioned because a) it was one of the items found at the house by LE and b) the location of it was relevant to the ransom notes in some way?

Can apps like this be connected to the same account on more than one device at a time, I wonder? As in, can you have the app on say two iphones, both apps registered and connected to the same pacemaker?

 

[Ghostwheel]

Wouldn't ruling out mostly be conducted during daylight hours rather than late at night ??

Not if you need darkness for something like luminol, I would think. Some checks require light, some darkness.

 

[Strangeworld]

Nancy's blood was found near the entrance of her home. I think she did make it back but didn't emerge alive again.

That blood could have been transferred there by someone. Not difficult at all to do, she wouldn't have needed to be present for her blood to be there

 

[Beans]

the syncing and location of Nancy (pacemaker), watch and phone could have happened anywhere. Placement of evidence can then occur after if needed

I definitely believe someone was in her home in the early hours of that morning, but it may not have been in the presence of Nancy at all

Or Nancy was in a vehicle in the garage or close to the property but maybe never actually made it back into the house itself.

 

[TheDinks]

But wasn’t her watch at home? My brain is mush.

Could've been placed back there later. Am not saying this is what I think happened, just answering the query.

 

[Snoopster]

But wasn’t her watch at home? My brain is mush.

I wonder if the car went back to NG's house and the watch was dropped off there. Hence the ransom issuer knew where the watch was and included that detail in the ransom note.

 

[browneyes]

True and it almost certainly implicates AG as well.

I can’t go there.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

idk how to square the latest video from the siblings with LE now taking photos at AG's. it's as if two different realities are happening at once

Feeling like I'm watching a Hallmark movie. What for the next twist and turn in about 1/2 hour. WOW just WOW

 

[keek]

Doesn’t it look like a flashlight and the breaks are just because of the window panes? Unless its multiple flashes but they move from right to left

Yes, like waving a super, super bright large flashlight type thing across a wall maybe, but it is a large light moving across to me. IMO

 

[dogmom805]

If she never left AG home, her watch did, and it was part of the staging at her home. So, it would disconnect from her pacemaker connection.

they took the watch off her and took it to her house.

 

[cathathorse]

This is depressing. I had hoped it wasn't the SIL or someone connected with him. And maybe it isn't, but this isn't looking good.

I did wonder about one thing, though. If the ransom demand contains info about the location of the Apple watch -- and if that location is unusual and not right next to the bed, then those behind the ransom note must had have inside knowledge. If they didn't abduct NG themselves, they need info from someone who knows were the item was. Who would have that info? Law enforcement and...possibly... family members. (Anyone else?)

JMO

hackers inside the system of the PCSD or FBI... the same people with the skillset to send ransom demands routed through a million VPNs

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Media is gathering outside the home of Annie Guthrie. Authorities are inside the house.

 

[whitelilac]

Or, the blood came from SIL himself, traces on himself, shoes, that he tracked back to the house from Nancy's house.