AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SlimPickens]

A family member having a financial motive to murder is fairly common in terms of motives for murder in general, but if the goal is to collect an inheritance or administer property on behalf of the deceased then a death certificate is required. And a death certificate requires a body unless the murderer wants to wait 7-10 years to petition the state to issue one in absentia.

In other words, a family member murdering another family member for an inheritance or financial gain isn't uncommon, but he/she isn't going to get it by hiding a body so well that LE hasn't found it in going on 7 days now. And he/she sure isn't going to foment a worldwide media spectacle as his/her "diversion" and/or backup plan to get paid.

Defies all reason.

JMO.

 

[Hexe]

The locked front door really bothers me.

It was reported the front door was unlocked.

 

[MesquiteO21]

I can't make sense of the juxtaposition between law enforcement's intense focus on the AG-family home and AG still being at the centre of it all with her siblings maintaining a united front. Add in the ransom element and this entire situation is baffling. Never seen anything like it.

Yep, feel exactly the same way, especially the juxtaposition.

I will say, if you look at some of the stills/screenshots of their video from today…some of the faces SG makes immediately struck me as annoyed and pissed off (thinking in particular of the thumbnail on Brian Entin’s most recent video. Just my opinion but that look seems more angry than sad.)

MOO

 

[osu]

My apologies if this video has already been posted. I’m approx 30 pages behind and trying to catch up.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020340510033080325

 

[SlimPickens]

If she was kidnapped and a ransom demand was emailed, its the FBI's case. If she was murdered and dumped, it's a state case. The family is publicly pleading for her to be released and reading carefully scripted messages. The local sheriff is at a basketball game.

You decide.

JMO.

 

[Strangeworld]

I've just been watching the 2 response to ransom videos. Something I noticed on both of them is AG has multiple microexpressions and it really became more obvious watching the videos back to back.

I am far from an expert in this area, but I am someone that is alert to subtle mannerisms in day to day life. And I'm not saying that these microexpressions mean any sort of guilt of AG, as it could be from stress, nerves, anxiety or her usual expressions.

However, something I did note in both videos was the raised eyebrows. Worth noting when it happens. Also, the micro smile and mouth twitching and movement. Easier to pick up when zoomed in of AG's face and listening to Savannah speak in the background.

I won't provide any links to some of the articles I've been reading because anything could be a cause of these expressions and most definitely does not suggest guilt, but it was just interesting to watch and understand what these types of microexpressions can mean based on research that is out there

 

[unresolvedmystery]

My apologies if this video has already been posted. I’m approx 30 pages behind and trying to catch up.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020340510033080325

Is there any reason they would be doing this unless AG's home is considered part of the crime scene?

 

[Sessiebo]

If she was kidnapped and a ransom demand was emailed, its the FBI's case. If she was murdered and dumped, it's a state case. The family is publicly pleading for her to be released and reading carefully scripted messages. The local sheriff is at a basketball game.

You decide.

JMO.

The sherrif's decision to go to a basketball game is really disrespectful.
I get that the man also has a personal life but this is just not done imo

 

[katydid23]

Thanks - yes - this does make sense, but doesn't equate to a murder motive. Where does this brother fit? I guess we will never know the true dynamics.
I'm a little surprised more friends/church-goers/colleagues haven't come forward (except colleagues of SG) and said anything. I'm in the UK and our tabloid press would be having a field day getting people to give interviews and comments.

Rationally and logically it makes no sense at all that someone would harm their 84 yr old relative.

But when it does happen, we usually find there were longstanding grievances and resentments. And then one divisive event happens that agitates everyone until someone is triggered beyond the point of no return.

Here is a HYPOTHETICAL scenario....does not have to refer to any specific family member in this case----but it is the kind of scenario we sometimes see in family murders...

The elderly matriarch or patriarch has some leverage because they have some money and some goods. And one of their children or grandchildren or nephews, etc, begins to feel disrespected over time.

They stay close and stay in touch because they know at some point they will inherit something valuable----or maybe they just want validation and acceptance.....but they feel rejected much of the time...Or they feel a sibling or a cousin or someone else always gets the validation and the rewards.


Maybe at some point they began asking for what they want or need? Maybe their business is going under or they are behind on their mortgage or whatever --but it is very stressful.

The matriarch has the ability to help them but maybe they deny the request? Maybe the perpetrator begins to feel disrespected and taken advantage of because they feel they have done a lot but don't get enough in return?

One day they feel emboldened and ask outright, Will you help us pay our past mortgage debts today? We are desperate......l

It can go sideways really fast. Panic sets in and then a cover up is needed. The crime scene is staged. Decisions are made in the chaos.

The decisions make no sense. ...but it is what it is...

 

[Charlot123]

I'm curious if SG helps out her siblings financially at all. Her net worth is estimated at $40M, and I believe her NYC townhome is worth about $11M and she may possibly have another home. I'm not sure her husband's net worth. I could see, if she doesn't help them at all, there being resentment. However, she is in no way obligated to

EDIT: and AG/TC's home is listed at about $650k.

1) I am surprised that anyone assumes she should help her siblings. Her expenses are also much higher. Her siblings are independent adults, with jobs. Plus, we really know nothing about the family dynamics- at all.

2) I would expect each sibling to help the mother, though, independently of the others. It seems that the mother bent her life and career so that all three could get free education in the University.

But again, the situation might be totally opposite to how we view it - mom may be trying to help the child whom she considered “not that strong”, or “less successful”? Or maybe the other kids preferred to buy mom something or pay for her medical care rather than send her money, which is also understandable?

 

[Sessiebo]

I've just been watching the 2 response to ransom videos. Something I noticed on both of them is AG has multiple microexpressions and it really became more obvious watching the videos back to back.

I am far from an expert in this area, but I am someone that is alert to subtle mannerisms in day to day life. And I'm not saying that these microexpressions mean any sort of guilt of AG, as it could be from stress, nerves, anxiety or her usual expressions.

However, something I did note in both videos was the raised eyebrows. Worth noting when it happens. Also, the micro smile and mouth twitching and movement. Easier to pick up when zoomed in of AG's face and listening to Savannah speak in the background.

I won't provide any links to some of the articles I've been reading because anything could be a cause of these expressions and most definitely does not suggest guilt, but it was just interesting to watch and understand what these types of microexpressions can mean based on research that is out there

JMO - I Also wondered what it meant so i asked but it got dismissed as her just being exhausted and emotional from the whole thing, which ofcourse could simply be the case.
My gut from the start said SIL and maybe AG know more but i could (and hope) be wrong.
I obviously don't know AG so it's really hard to say if this is just her way of expressing herself or if there's more behind it.
I just hope Nancy is returned soon

 

[Charlot123]

The sherrif's decision to go to a basketball game is really disrespectful.
I get that the man also has a personal life but this is just not done imo

Another version of events: FBI comes, says “we’ll take over for tonight, thank you”. Rather than going home, he went to basketball game to save his face.

We truly don’t know what’s going on there.

 

[shonyakay]

In the first note, the one(s) who took Nancy, gave two deadlines to meet their demand of 6 million in bitcoin - one on Thursday at 5:00 p.m. and another with something worse happening if the demand was not met by, Monday at 5:00 p.m. They also stated that there would be no further contact at this time.

"Poof of life" was requested by the family. The first deadline passed without the perp(s) sending POL. This delay makes sense since they originally stated that they would not be in further contact.

The First deadline slipped by without payment. I believe this may have been a strategic move so the perp(s) would communicate further, with LE hoping that they would mess up, allowing LE to track them down.

Right after the first deadline, the brother made a second plea.
Hence the second note. There was no ransom demand in this note. I believe it is because this second note's sole purpose was to show some form of POL. Possibly something that only those close to Nancy would know.

Sidenote: Just some observations with the assumption that these notes are legit and are from the one(s) who took Nancy.

 

[TheDinks]

As Brian says... it's strange for 3 deputies to be at TC & AG's house, 7 days along, late at night for approx 3 hours taking photos in various locations throughout the house and garage.

...this has to be leading in a certain direction, surely ??

Oh and Brian - get some SLEEP

 

[katydid23]

Is there any reason they would be doing this unless AG's home is considered part of the crime scene?

That's a good question.

If they are looking at the bitcoin ransom people, then searching NG's home makes perfect sense. Towing her car makes sense because maybe one of the perps was inside of it or touched the exterior?

If they are looking for the bitcoin ransom people, I'm not sure why they would be taking photos inside of AG's house or towing their car? Unless LE thought there was a connection there?

 

[Poet]

I agree it appears she’s no longer with us but what gets me is why do they say “celebrate WITH her” to me that indicates someone who is still alive. Again, I think they’re responding in some way to something the captor wrote in a message. But the word ‘with’ to me is really not indicating she’s deceased as of this moment. We can try and spin it in any way, but usually you’re not celebrating WITH a dead person, you’re celebrating the dead person.

This is exactly what I thought too. The word “with” feels meaningful to me as well. She could have simply said: please tell us where to find her body so we can bury her. We will pay. The use of the word “celebrate” feels unnecessary unless she is referring to something the captor wrote.

 

[Strangeworld]

JMO - I Also wondered what it meant so i asked but it got dismissed as her just being exhausted and emotional from the whole thing, which ofcourse could simply be the case.
My gut from the start said SIL and maybe AG know more but i could (and hope) be wrong.
I obviously don't know AG so it's really hard to say if this is just her way of expressing herself or if there's more behind it.
I just hope Nancy is returned soon

That's why I didn't post any research links. We are just going off a moment in time and don't know AG to gauge normal expression vs something else. Plus exhaustion, tiredness, stress, nerves... these can all impact facial expressions.

I think many people have noticed it, but I guess we will wait to see how things move forward. I am hoping she isn't involved

 

[InVinoVeritas]

Rationally and logically it makes no sense at all that someone would harm their 84 yr old relative.

But when it does happen, we usually find there were longstanding grievances and resentments. And then one divisive event happens that agitates everyone until someone is triggered beyond the point of no return.

Here is a HYPOTHETICAL scenario....does not have to refer to any specific family member in this case----but it is the kind of scenario we sometimes see in family murders...

The elderly matriarch or patriarch has some leverage because they have some money and some goods. And one of their children or grandchildren or nephews, etc, begins to feel disrespected over time.

They stay close and stay in touch because they know at some point they will inherit something valuable----or maybe they just want validation and acceptance.....but they feel rejected much of the time...Or they feel a sibling or a cousin or someone else always gets the validation and the rewards.


Maybe at some point they began asking for what they want or need? Maybe their business is going under or they are behind on their mortgage or whatever --but it is very stressful.

The matriarch has the ability to help them but maybe they deny the request? Maybe the perpetrator begins to feel disrespected and taken advantage of because they feel they have done a lot but don't get enough in return?

One day they feel emboldened and ask outright, Will you help us pay our past mortgage debts today? We are desperate......l

It can go sideways really fast. Panic sets in and then a cover up is needed. The crime scene is staged. Decisions are made in the chaos.

The decisions make no sense. ...but it is what it is...

It's absolutely a scenario, but what a huge weight for everyone left behind. I find it difficult to process the levels of quick "panic planning" that would have to be involved, with a potential child as a witness too.

Of course, if the ransom notes are a cover up, NG isn't coming home alive either way as she'd know too much.

It's just very very sad.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Rationally and logically it makes no sense at all that someone would harm their 84 yr old relative.

But when it does happen, we usually find there were longstanding grievances and resentments. And then one divisive event happens that agitates everyone until someone is triggered beyond the point of no return.

Here is a HYPOTHETICAL scenario....does not have to refer to any specific family member in this case----but it is the kind of scenario we sometimes see in family murders...

The elderly matriarch or patriarch has some leverage because they have some money and some goods. And one of their children or grandchildren or nephews, etc, begins to feel disrespected over time.

They stay close and stay in touch because they know at some point they will inherit something valuable----or maybe they just want validation and acceptance.....but they feel rejected much of the time...Or they feel a sibling or a cousin or someone else always gets the validation and the rewards.


Maybe at some point they began asking for what they want or need? Maybe their business is going under or they are behind on their mortgage or whatever --but it is very stressful.

The matriarch has the ability to help them but maybe they deny the request? Maybe the perpetrator begins to feel disrespected and taken advantage of because they feel they have done a lot but don't get enough in return?

One day they feel emboldened and ask outright, Will you help us pay our past mortgage debts today? We are desperate......l

It can go sideways really fast. Panic sets in and then a cover up is needed. The crime scene is staged. Decisions are made in the chaos.

The decisions make no sense. ...but it is what it is...

If the SIL is actually involved I think what you’ve presented here is more than likely the correct scenario.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

The sherrif's decision to go to a basketball game is really disrespectful.
I get that the man also has a personal life but this is just not done imo

I completely disagree. It's 2 hours out of his day. And maybe he had a family member playing or some ties to the game, who knows. He's entitled to his own time. Come on. It shouldn't be news. I don't see it as disrespectful.