AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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But we know the earlier Instagram video was filmed at AG's house, implying they were living there at least earlier this week. And then they leave and the searches are carried out while they are elsewhere. Interesting...
I would leave too with all the media there.

It could be that the family said, sure, go ahead and search, we have nothing to hide. I imagine LE still got a warrant anyway, but no attorney being there seemed odd for me if the family was concerned at all about the search. And if the deputies that were there found anything alarming, I would have expected crime scene tape to be put up or at least the house to be secured, but they left after a few hours.

All JMO
 
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My thoughts on opening the garage door... if someone is dropping me off at home, I would walk in through my front door. If I'm not parking a vehicle in the garage its not likely I'm opening that door. Do people really do this? Maybe it just makes more sense with the layout of her house. Was it opened because someone knew there would be a record of it being opened?

MOO
It’s easier for our family to come in through the garage. We also have a keypad opener mounted outside the garage. We routinely use the keypad/garage instead of the front door.
 
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I would leave too with all the media there.

It could be that the family said, sure, go ahead and search, we have nothing to hide. I imagine LE still got a warrant anyway, but no attorney being there seemed odd for me if the family was concerned at all about the search. And if the deputies that were there found anything alarming, I would have expected crime scene tape to be put up or at least the house to be secured, but they left after a few hours.

All JMO
If they are still not cleared a week later what does that say?
 
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It looked like they were doing luminal testing, which, imo, is far beyond what is done to rule someone out. My opinion.

But, time will tell. I hope it's not family as that would be absolutely torture on top of the heartbreak.

jmopinion
Agree. I hope it's not family but I've it felt from the beginning it is. It does not make logical sense that LE would spend this much time over the last week at AG's house, getting a search warrant and impounding their car, taking evidence from the garage, etc. if they weren't serious suspects. They haven't given this much time or attention to any other location aside from NG's house.

They are not doing all this just to rule them out. Ruling out would have been done within a day of just looking at AG's house's Ring cam footage, license plate readers and traffic cameras along the route between houses, and phone/watch data. Obviously whatever they have said for timeline and whereabouts isn't matching with that technical data and could explain why the car is being looked at, if the car was seen outside of their supposed timeline. I also believe AB and her source didn't pull this info out of thin air and she is a reliable crime journalist with sources she trusts. JMO!
 
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Is it true that the media has discovered how much the ransom amount was or is that news untrustworthy? Opened up an article believe it was from Fox and it said the ransom amount was for six million.
 
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I am about 30 pages behind here but at this point what is striking to me all the concentration at AG's house both inside and out. While AB may have gone out on a limb with her tip I am now thinking LE is focusing on Annie and her husband.. If AG or/and her husband are involved I don't know how SG will make it thru this. All those photos being taken are not of the mahjong game!
 
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From what I’ve heard it was only sheriff not FBI searching AG’s house last night.. it’s strange to me that it would be Pima co. and not the FBI searching.
 
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We never use the front door at my parent’s house. If they know we’re coming over they will open the garage door in advance. If they don’t, we’ll open it ourselves because we know the code (and I’m pretty certain we’ve also had our car buttons hooked up to open it as well in cars past). The garage has light, it goes directly into the spaces where we hang out. The front door, like NG’s has a security door, will be locked, and nobody wants to be disturbed by the doorbell.

I have had to go to mom's this past week early in the morning (to give her dang cat his insulin lol) I have been parking out front and have had to ask her to unlock the front door for me because... I have NEVER used it and don't even have a key for it. We usually use the backdoor and it has a keypad. I was thinking I should probably have a key for that door lol

I don't think it would be odd at all if the family also used the garage to enter the home. I think it is quite normal for everyone to have their preferred entrance into their home and family follows suit.
 
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It might be easier for her to go in through the garage than navigate the front walkway in the dark. If there are any small steps or turned in the walkway I could see wanting to avoid that when it’s not light out. I only go in and out through the garage because I am lazy and don’t feel like using my front door key. My car has a push button start so I have my keys tucked away in my purse and never physically touch them.
 
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I don't know. I'm baffled by the timeline, but it is possible the phone and the body were together until they weren't. Someone can carry a phone back to the house in the middle of the night and place it somewhere distinctive that the ransom-note writer knew about.

jmo
But wouldn’t the phone record that?
 
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Honestly, there has been so much happening on this case and so many twists and turns it's easy to get lost.

If we zoom out, I feel Occam's Razor leads us to the solution. What is the probability an 84 year old is randomly kidnapped and held ransom? What is the probability someone is kidnapped or murdered by someone known to them?

I feel the detail about NG being the mother of a famous morning show anchor is interesting / coincidental but not actually relevant at all to what happened.
I don’t think it is coincidental that NG is the mother of SG, a famous and successful and rich TV host. Even if NG was kidnapped by someone known to her, I think it is related to that fact. Think about this - AG and SG are siblings and very close in age. I saw it mentioned somewhere that AG considered her and her sister to be close like the sun and the moon. That is an odd comparison but telling because the sun always overshadows the moon. The moon is seen only when the sun goes down. Anyway, not a stretch to think AG is resentful that her sister is very successful but has no ongoing responsibility to their mom other than showing up for photo ops or featuring NG on her show. AG on the other hand was stuck caring for the mom even if the mom lived independently. I am sure she couldn’t travel whenever she pleased without making sure someone was available to help the mom in an emergency. In such a scenario, what if she thought a “harmless kidnapping” would make SG cough up a few millions as ransom? It may not have seemed like a crime in her mind. Just payout for bearing the brunt of the elderly parent care. MOO. Hope NG is found safe.
 
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Your assuming it was a premeditated murder. I'm thinking it was a manslaughter/2nd degree murder type situation.
Yes, that's the only way I can see him involved. But then you have to consider him transporting the body. LE would be all over that with vehicle and phone etc evidence, and he'd likely be in custody by now. And then there's his wife. Is she involved? Honestly her demeanor in the videos makes me believe if she knew anything, she'd crack in a heartbeat. I just can't see it.
 
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It’s easier for our family to come in through the garage. We also have a keypad opener mounted outside the garage. We routinely use the keypad/garage instead of the front door.
I'm an old person. I never use the front door because of the steps, plus I have a ramp in the garage, plus the mud room is by the inside door in the garage. It's just easier.
 
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I'm not convinced. I can't figure a motive where he'd remove the body. Why not just wait for her to pass if you're looking for $. It'd take years for her to be declared dead. And if he's the ransomer, how's he gonna explain his cash infusion?
I've wondered that too. If money is the angle why not 'get rid' of NG in her home, as in a home invasion. DNA would be expected from the local family as they were probably in and out of NG home regularly, so that can be explained. Why take a person who you need to feed, medicate, assist, etc.?? Do we know if NG was finanancially independent, like does she have her own money where there would be heirs to her estate?? Or has SG supported her financially?
 
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My thoughts on opening the garage door... if someone is dropping me off at home, I would walk in through my front door. If I'm not parking a vehicle in the garage its not likely I'm opening that door. Do people really do this? Maybe it just makes more sense with the layout of her house. Was it opened because someone knew there would be a record of it being opened?

MOO
Looks like I am in the minority here. We live in an area with extremely cold winters and extremely hot summers so we try to keep our garage closed whenever possible. Not to mention the wear and tear on the garage door opener from opening & closing many times per day. Thanks all!
 
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Is it true that the media has discovered how much the ransom amount was or is that news untrustworthy? Opened up an article believe it was from Fox and it said the ransom amount was for six million.
New details have emerged about the ransom demands for Nancy Guthrie’s safe return, with CNN affiliate KGUN reporting that the purported kidnapper or kidnappers have demanded $6 million and threatened Guthrie’s life if a 5 p.m. Monday deadline isn’t met, citing a ransom note sent to the station.
 
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Coming to this case very recently, but curious about investigators being at AG’s house. A scenario that could make sense that doesn’t implicate AG/SIL is that both AG and NG used the same company or contractor for house repair / renovations, landscaping, installation of home security. Maybe law-enforcement found some fingerprints at the scene and identified a connection between who has been at both houses that is not Family, and is looking for something at AG/SIL’s house that would have that persons fingerprints. I’m thinking of something like a paint can, tools, etc.
 
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Is anyone else like damn, im not having anyone over to my house ever again in the rare chance they do get murdered/kidnapped/held for ransom in the middle of the night and im the last person to see them?
 

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