AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[mikeshanty]

I have to hope that they're staying somewhere much more private and it's not being disclosed. I was trying to think of what I would do if I was SG. I came to two/three real options - a large suite at a hotel, or the home of someone trusted. I'm talking lifelong best friend or maybe someone who has a second home that's not being used. I imagine her own security team, which it seems like she had even before this incident, would also be with her. Perhaps some additional security from NBC, some lawyers... I would want a lot of space that I was in control of.

I can't imagine how unsettling and life-altering this is for SG and the family. It shakes their whole foundation. Who can you trust? What's the point?

MOO

Exactly this, but definitely somewhere with high security. SG is potentially viewed as another target.

 

[Cardgame]

I can pull up limited data in the app. It shows the date/time of past interrogations. Mine are usually around 1:30 am or thereabouts. If the interrogation is successful I can see if my pacemaker recorded any anomalies or concerning events.

If Ms Guthrie's pacemaker sent a data pack the previous night at 2 am the only thing you'd see in the app is a successful transmission the previous night and a disconnected/failure on the night in question. There is no data in between.

But she had an apple watch, doesn't that give enhanced data about her being alive?

I always thought the relevance of the pacemaker was that it indicated out of range and because the watch and phone are at home that informed the police what time she had been transported away (alive)?

 

[watson1]

This is actually (shockingly) not true. Law enforcement can question a minor whenever they want to. Laws vary by state but anyone who has minor children should always tell them not to talk to LE without their parent and a lawyer present.

SB1652 - 542R - I Ver

 

[SMK777]

the attention being paid to AG's home is unusual if noone there being investigated closely.

That's what common sense would say, definitely.

 

[MassGuy]

@MassGuy,

What is the general timeframe for potential evidence obtained from AG’s home last night to be processed and results returned? TIA

We don't know what it is, so there's no telling.

But whatever it is, processing would be faster than what we typically see. This case has the highest priority, and an incredible amount of resources. We know that rapid DNA testing has been used though.

 

[Curiousobserver]

But the family is not hunkered down there. They’ve been in a different location.

And they didn’t just take pictures, they took both cars.

In my scenario- with SIL as perp, they stage scene to make it look like a kidnapping. Took cameras for that. They had to have known of the camera on roof but didn’t take it, because they knew no subscription and they had already set the scene enough. Why leave a back door open for any other reason? In my scenario, they planted the watch and blood.

A ransom note only required a VPN. They can use the website contact form and VPN anywhere. Bitcoin wallet is anywhere. Both are writers. Both are local as Harvey Levin pointed out.

In retrospect, it makes the most sense, absent motive for me, but in plenty crimes I see no motive.

I do think evidence will be research on how to do things recovered from phones.

I don't think we know that is the case:

From Wed-

Savannah Guthrie’s brother and sister put on united front in first sighting since mom’s disappearance

The 84-year-old was reported missing on Sunday after missing church.

www.yahoo.com

Then 2 hrs ago

Day 8: The latest on the Investigation into the Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

TUCSON (KVOA) - As the search for Nancy Guthrie enters its second week, law enforcement activity continues around her family's residences. Police were observed at the home of Annie Guthrie,

www.kvoa.com

Savannah Guthrie and her siblings, who had been staying at their older sister's home several miles away, left the location as investigators conducted their search.

So they were there for the search, but this also confirms it was a search.

This is the most confusing case I have ever followed.

 

[stmichael]

the attention being paid to AG's home is unusual if noone there being investigated closely.

True. But it was the last place she was seen alive (dinner at AG's) before allegedly being dropped off home by Tomasso.

 

[Jazz]

But the family is not hunkered down there. They’ve been in a different location.

And they didn’t just take pictures, they took both cars.

In my scenario- with SIL as perp, they stage scene to make it look like a kidnapping. Took cameras for that. They had to have known of the camera on roof but didn’t take it, because they knew no subscription and they had already set the scene enough. Why leave a back door open for any other reason? In my scenario, they planted the watch and blood.

A ransom note only required a VPN. They can use the website contact form and VPN anywhere. Bitcoin wallet is anywhere. Both are writers. Both are local as Harvey Levin pointed out.

In retrospect, it makes the most sense, absent motive for me, but in plenty crimes I see no motive.

I do think evidence will be research on how to do things recovered from phones.

Yep, my theory too, staged. NG may have never made it home from AG's.

 

[Cardgame]

thanks... i have skipped pages. !

I usually try never to skip pages on WS but on this case if you didn't it would basically be a full time job!

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Thanks for the info.

Question: You have the app on your phone? or watch? or both?

Another Question haha : If you leave your phone somewhere and walk a distance away, does it lose connection and do you get a notification of that on your phone?

I'm wondering if during the investigation they found a 'notification' saying it lost contact.

Oh interesting I wonder if it would show if it auto connected via Bluetooth to a vehicle as well? Or does that only happen to a phone with app?

 

[Cindizzi]

Who carries maps anymore

Law Enforcement coordinating grid searches might use a topographical map JMO

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020250970865938481

 

[Sadi]

We don't know what it is, so there's no telling.

But whatever it is, processing would be faster than what we typically see. This case has the highest priority, and an incredible amount of resources. We know that rapid DNA testing has been used though.

Thank you as always for your expertise. Do you think they would be sending the evidence to Quantico or Phoenix field office?

 

[dotr]

February 6, 2026

Ex-FBI Special Agent Claims Savannah Guthrie's Mom's Abductor May Be A Person 'Obsessed' With Her Daughter

Nancy Guthrie's disappearance has prompted growing concern as investigators work to determine the reason for her abduction.

www.yahoo.com

''While an alleged ransom note demands millions in cryptocurrency, a former CIA and FBI official believes the crime may stem from fixation or resentment linked to the TV personality's visibility.

As more troubling details emerge, the case of Savannah Guthrie's mom's disappearance is being increasingly viewed as a deliberate, targeted act rather than a random crime.''

Instagram | Savannah Guthrie
'According to former CIA officer and FBI special agent Tracy Walder, Nancy Guthrie's abduction may be driven more by her daughter Savannah Guthrie's public profile than by financial motives, despite an alleged ransom note demanding millions in cryptocurrency.''

'She previously suggested Nancy may have been "stalked for some time," noting the perpetrator's apparent familiarity with the home and its security systems.'

 

[Alkali13]

Law Enforcement coordinating grid searches might use a topographical map JMO

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020250970865938481

Is the prevalent theory that the map is for finding a suspect or a body?

 

[TristanP]

If it is true that an investigator was carrying a map….has someone talked?

If it’s true that an investigator was carrying a map, they must be using investigative tactics from 1995

 

[Fargo]

Would it be normal for this to happen at odd times, and not a specific time on the dot?

Like :58 instead of :00

Yes, for mine anyway. Mine is set up to send a query while I sleep, between midnight and 3 am. I can't recall if I selected that time or my doctor did. Queries can be set up for nightly, weekly, monthly, whatever you want. Mine only forwards the data pack if there is concerning data there.

Going back through my data it looks like most queries are between 1 and 2 am, clustered around the 1:30 am area.

 

[SilentHill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020518400988963227

So they either made it up or published it without permission?

 

[LAhiker]

That's being widely reported, and posted several times in this fast moving thread.

-$6M Ransom
-due Monday 5pm
-or she will be killed

via JJ McKinney from Tucson ABC affiliate KGUN9 reported.

Staggering Nancy Guthrie ransom demand amount revealed by local TV station

The alleged captors threatened the elder Guthrie’s life if the deadline – set for 5 p.m. local time – wasn’t met, the outlet reported.

nypost.com

And yet, the tone of the last video from the three siblings implies to me that they know she is already dead. It also implies that they're willing to pay to get her body. But I think the would-be ransomers have less leverage over the family than they did before.

JMO

 

[Aquabot13]

Law Enforcement coordinating grid searches might use a topographical map JMO

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020250970865938481

I might be old fashioned but I've had things like flowcharts and diagrams printed on huge printers for work. Sometimes when things get really complex I need a physical copy - just how my brain works.

I do agree it could be a map or a blueprint, but I also think it could be something they printed themselves. Red string diagram adjacent.

MOO

 

[mikeshanty]

Is anyone else glued to WS right now