• #12,021
Speaking of the flashing light in the garage, I think daily mail is an approved source here, and I notice in their article posted last night it said this:
“Brian Entin shared footage from the scene showing camera flashes in a number of rooms throughout Annie's home, including two bedrooms and a large family room.”


the attention being paid to AG's home is unusual if noone there being investigated closely.
 
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I have to hope that they're staying somewhere much more private and it's not being disclosed. I was trying to think of what I would do if I was SG. I came to two/three real options - a large suite at a hotel, or the home of someone trusted. I'm talking lifelong best friend or maybe someone who has a second home that's not being used. I imagine her own security team, which it seems like she had even before this incident, would also be with her. Perhaps some additional security from NBC, some lawyers... I would want a lot of space that I was in control of.

I can't imagine how unsettling and life-altering this is for SG and the family. It shakes their whole foundation. Who can you trust? What's the point?

MOO
DJT probably offered accommodation; he did the same for Jennifer Hudson in 2008. Not a political post, just stating past actions.
 
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I can pull up limited data in the app. It shows the date/time of past interrogations. Mine are usually around 1:30 am or thereabouts. If the interrogation is successful I can see if my pacemaker recorded any anomalies or concerning events.

If Ms Guthrie's pacemaker sent a data pack the previous night at 2 am the only thing you'd see in the app is a successful transmission the previous night and a disconnected/failure on the night in question. There is no data in between.

Thanks for the info.

Question: You have the app on your phone? or watch? or both?

Another Question haha : If you leave your phone somewhere and walk a distance away, does it lose connection and do you get a notification of that on your phone?

I'm wondering if during the investigation they found a 'notification' saying it lost contact.
 
  • #12,026
For those wondering about where Savannah and her siblings were during the search last night:

“Savannah Guthrie and her siblings, who had been staying at their older sister's home several miles away, left the location as investigators conducted their search.”

See, this is so confusing. At first I was like “There’s an older sister? I thought Camron was the eldest!” In this case, I guess the writer means that Annie is older than Savannah, and they were all staying at Annie’s home. But she’s not Camron’s older sister.

The state of reporting (and Sheriff statements) these days! Words mean things.
 
  • #12,027
are sleuths thinking that. video footage at gas station which became of such interest is going to show TC?
Not sure, but certain vehicle definitely!
 
  • #12,028
I have to hope that they're staying somewhere much more private and it's not being disclosed. I was trying to think of what I would do if I was SG. I came to two/three real options - a large suite at a hotel, or the home of someone trusted. I'm talking lifelong best friend or maybe someone who has a second home that's not being used. I imagine her own security team, which it seems like she had even before this incident, would also be with her. Perhaps some additional security from NBC, some lawyers... I would want a lot of space that I was in control of.

I can't imagine how unsettling and life-altering this is for SG and the family. It shakes their whole foundation. Who can you trust? What's the point?

MOO
Exactly this, but definitely somewhere with high security. SG is potentially viewed as another target.
 
  • #12,029
I can pull up limited data in the app. It shows the date/time of past interrogations. Mine are usually around 1:30 am or thereabouts. If the interrogation is successful I can see if my pacemaker recorded any anomalies or concerning events.

If Ms Guthrie's pacemaker sent a data pack the previous night at 2 am the only thing you'd see in the app is a successful transmission the previous night and a disconnected/failure on the night in question. There is no data in between.
But she had an apple watch, doesn't that give enhanced data about her being alive?

I always thought the relevance of the pacemaker was that it indicated out of range and because the watch and phone are at home that informed the police what time she had been transported away (alive)?
 
  • #12,030
This is actually (shockingly) not true. Law enforcement can question a minor whenever they want to. Laws vary by state but anyone who has minor children should always tell them not to talk to LE without their parent and a lawyer present.
 
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the attention being paid to AG's home is unusual if noone there being investigated closely.
That's what common sense would say, definitely.
 
  • #12,032
@MassGuy,

What is the general timeframe for potential evidence obtained from AG’s home last night to be processed and results returned? TIA

We don't know what it is, so there's no telling.

But whatever it is, processing would be faster than what we typically see. This case has the highest priority, and an incredible amount of resources. We know that rapid DNA testing has been used though.
 
  • #12,033
But the family is not hunkered down there. They’ve been in a different location.

And they didn’t just take pictures, they took both cars.

In my scenario- with SIL as perp, they stage scene to make it look like a kidnapping. Took cameras for that. They had to have known of the camera on roof but didn’t take it, because they knew no subscription and they had already set the scene enough. Why leave a back door open for any other reason? In my scenario, they planted the watch and blood.

A ransom note only required a VPN. They can use the website contact form and VPN anywhere. Bitcoin wallet is anywhere. Both are writers. Both are local as Harvey Levin pointed out.

In retrospect, it makes the most sense, absent motive for me, but in plenty crimes I see no motive.

I do think evidence will be research on how to do things recovered from phones.
I don't think we know that is the case:

From Wed-


Then 2 hrs ago


Savannah Guthrie and her siblings, who had been staying at their older sister's home several miles away, left the location as investigators conducted their search.

So they were there for the search, but this also confirms it was a search.

This is the most confusing case I have ever followed.
 
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the attention being paid to AG's home is unusual if noone there being investigated closely.

True. But it was the last place she was seen alive (dinner at AG's) before allegedly being dropped off home by Tomasso.
 
  • #12,035
But the family is not hunkered down there. They’ve been in a different location.

And they didn’t just take pictures, they took both cars.

In my scenario- with SIL as perp, they stage scene to make it look like a kidnapping. Took cameras for that. They had to have known of the camera on roof but didn’t take it, because they knew no subscription and they had already set the scene enough. Why leave a back door open for any other reason? In my scenario, they planted the watch and blood.

A ransom note only required a VPN. They can use the website contact form and VPN anywhere. Bitcoin wallet is anywhere. Both are writers. Both are local as Harvey Levin pointed out.

In retrospect, it makes the most sense, absent motive for me, but in plenty crimes I see no motive.

I do think evidence will be research on how to do things recovered from phones.
Yep, my theory too, staged. NG may have never made it home from AG's.
 
  • #12,036
thanks... i have skipped pages. !
I usually try never to skip pages on WS but on this case if you didn't it would basically be a full time job!
 
  • #12,037
Thanks for the info.

Question: You have the app on your phone? or watch? or both?

Another Question haha : If you leave your phone somewhere and walk a distance away, does it lose connection and do you get a notification of that on your phone?

I'm wondering if during the investigation they found a 'notification' saying it lost contact.
Oh interesting I wonder if it would show if it auto connected via Bluetooth to a vehicle as well? Or does that only happen to a phone with app?
 
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We don't know what it is, so there's no telling.

But whatever it is, processing would be faster than what we typically see. This case has the highest priority, and an incredible amount of resources. We know that rapid DNA testing has been used though.
Thank you as always for your expertise. Do you think they would be sending the evidence to Quantico or Phoenix field office?
 
  • #12,040
February 6, 2026
''While an alleged ransom note demands millions in cryptocurrency, a former CIA and FBI official believes the crime may stem from fixation or resentment linked to the TV personality's visibility.

As more troubling details emerge, the case of Savannah Guthrie's mom's disappearance is being increasingly viewed as a deliberate, targeted act rather than a random crime.''
Savannah Guthrie and her mother, Nancy Guthrie

Instagram | Savannah Guthrie
'According to former CIA officer and FBI special agent Tracy Walder, Nancy Guthrie's abduction may be driven more by her daughter Savannah Guthrie's public profile than by financial motives, despite an alleged ransom note demanding millions in cryptocurrency.''

'She previously suggested Nancy may have been "stalked for some time," noting the perpetrator's apparent familiarity with the home and its security systems.'
 
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