AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I’m just catching up on posts, so this may already have been addressed. His comment about different classes is not odd at all. For example, when one of my sons was a senior in high school, they may know of someone who was in the junior class, but not have personally known him or her. This is what he means.
Thanks, yeh I clarified that I misinterpreted this as something about lower / upper class but that's because I am a brit!
 
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You are a little bit behind on the news ;) Major searches in their house last night
Also, yes, a car was towed away. So that happened late last night.
 
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How would a random kidnapper know she attended the online services?
They would not I'd assume. So it is that a real churchgoer friend called her daughter's house to ask if ok, or it is a ruse from the daughter's house to 'get the ball rolling'. I lean towards that NOW, but def cannot be for sure as no one can till the calls are confirmed as legit or no call from any friends at 'that time' that they interview. IMO
 
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My app is on my phone. Before that I had a home monitor/receiver in the bedroom. Neither gives me real-time information as far as data or connection status outside of the set interrogation time. If I'm out of range at query time I do get a connection failure notice then.

My experience only.

A reporter on Fox, John Roberts, this past week that has his own pacemaker, was talking about his this past week, saying he can only go 50-100feet or it would lose communication with the app. Just like any other bluetooth device.

My father in law had a pacemaker, but they would just download the info at appointments, oh my I can't even imagine having to teach him the "app" haha I didn't even know it was an option! Thanks for the info Fargo!
 
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My map comment wasn’t intended to cause anything just random saying who carries a map when there are so many other options with more detail and information. Thered need to be a reason imo
 
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This guy is about on the same level as JLR.
Are these people in the same league as someone like Candace O?
 
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Once a conman, always a conman. What he did to those Sandy Hook families was horrific. Pure evil.
Wow..all I knew was that he had been to prison for fraud and "supposedly" turned his life around.
I just read his wiki page.
 
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Somebody tell me if this guy is not allowed. I searched forum and saw other tweets linked.
What do you think about what he says?

Not necessarily. The FBI does not automatically lead evidence searches, even in serious or high profile cases. Local sheriff or police departments usually handle search warrants and evidence collection within their own jurisdiction, and they have trained forensic technicians who routinely process scenes, photograph evidence, and collect samples. The FBI typically becomes more visibly involved if a confirmed federal crime is established, the case crosses state lines, or local agencies request federal assistance. Even when the FBI is involved, they often work alongside local investigators rather than taking over publicly, and their involvement is not always disclosed. So seeing only sheriff personnel at a search does not mean the search is less significant or that federal authorities are not assisting behind the scenes.
 
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I haven’t been following since last night so I apologize if this was discussed, but does anyone think there is a specific reason for the $6 million? Why not 5 or 7?
 
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It should also be reiterated that a murder/dump falls under the sheriff's/state jurisdiction, while a kidnapping and email ransom falls under FBI/federal jurisdiction. The sheriff's office, once the hub of media relations, paused daily press conferences a few days back, and this is despite the investigation clearly intensifying and public interest in it having multiplied exponentially. The FBI typically does not comment on their active investigations. This suggests a literal change in jurisdiction and oversight, and an implied change in what law enforcement agencies feel occurred that night and subsequently.

Indeed, the Guthries have been pleading with purported kidnappers to return their Mom, and acknowledging contact and their willingness to pay. The Sheriff was spotted at a basketball game last night. To be sure, there is nothing wrong with the Sheriff enjoying his life and any favorite past times, but this fact, along with the shift in media relations a few days ago at his department, does suggest that his office is no longer the key agency overseeing this case.

And if that is true, and the Guthries are clearly and publicly focused on a kidnapping and interacting with a purported kidnapper in order to negotiate the return of NG, then it suggests that this is what it seems to be - a kidnapping for ransom led by an always tight-lipped FBI.

JMO.
 
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PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT RANDOM YOUTUBE CREATORS.
STAY ON TOPIC.
THANK YOU.
 
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The last video is the body language off? SG and her brother seem like their upper body is turned away from the sister. SG, I can't tell if she is holding her hand but her arms are still crossed. I am interested in body language and think I see something with the sister but it doesn't always mean something. Just curious if anyone else sees what I THINK I am seeing in the body language. I went back and just watched it because someone said watch it with the sound off and pay attention to the sister and that is what I noticed.
I watch for and tend to analyze body language. I'm no expert, to be sure, but I find the subject quite interesting.
 
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Somebody tell me if this guy is not allowed. I searched forum and saw other tweets linked.
What do you think about what he says?

Personally I wouldn’t know if he’s correct or not, but it’s interesting! I think it’s possible, as some of the comments say, that they didn’t do a Luminal search, but looked for something else. I also think it’s possible that Sheriff was creating a distraction to something the FBI was doing. Look here, not there.
 
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How would a random kidnapper know she attended the online services?
They wouldn't. So would indicate not a random kidnapping, IMO
 
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Thanks, yeh I clarified that I misinterpreted this as something about lower / upper class but that's because I am a brit!
I must say as American who lives on Brit authors and series /shows, it was the first thing that came to my mind too and I 'jumped', then realized. Haa. "OUR" backs get up!!
 
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It's just inexplicable, if it was SIL I'm surprised it would take this long to build a case and nail him down? Even if he had an accomplice, surely there would be some record of who it was or what they did. Federal, state and local are all working on this, how could he outsmart them all for this long? Who knows though... again, just somehow hoping AG wasn't involved if SIL did do it...
 
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