AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[jillybean51]

Not an ambulance or tent until a body is actually found.

Maybe they were only told that she’s in a “hole”? , therefore the map and manhole preliminary search?

 

[maskedwoman]

Where are you getting these details,... You must add a viable msm link to declare such things.

As far as I have read--Nancy was NONE of these things...except carried a cane.

Savannah described her mother as being in constant pain in the first video. However, I would need to know who was present for dinner before I could conclude anything else. I am very concerned that SIL was involved because it appears that he was "the last to see".

And I dont think the ransom note is a random jerk because they seemed to know things about the crime scene that one could not guess. Beyond that I'm not prepared to go.

 

[Baba O'Riley]

She said “Celebrate with her.” I don’t think people would phrase it that way for a Celebration of Life ceremony. IMO

I think they phrased it that way intentionally. What is unsaid in this phrase is "Celebrate [her life] with her [body returned to us."] ( brackets and bolding mine).

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I’m pretty sure it was just the son in laws testimony. I was curious about this as well, but looking at the neighborhood, houses seem pretty separated and far off the road. There also are no sidewalks.

So, LE only have one person’s word about her return?

 

[moonglow123]

I am undecided/not convinced that AG and/or her husband has anything to do with NG's disappearance. If they do, I hope they are prosecuted to the fullest extent. If they don't, I can't imagine the pain that they and the rest of the family is and will go through for the rest of their lives.

I am the local daughter that has the responsibility of caring for my mom who has some dementia. It can be both a blessing and a curse and can be a source of some very difficult family dynamics - even in the best of families. I can imagine that there may be a certain amount of resentment from AG towards SG & CG - not that she doesn't love them and can even be proud of/happy for them and their success. But it can be very hard to be the one that is faced with the day-to-day care of an aging parent. Even if NG wasn't in need of full-time "care", there is still the sense that you (AG in this case) are the one to make sure she is OK, that she gets to appointments, social things, has/takes her medicine, runs errands, makes sure household and financial things are done, etc. And you do this day in, day out while your siblings live far away and may seem blissfully unaware of the day-to-day care you provide. It often feels like you are the sole person responsible for your mom's health, safety, etc.

So when this tragedy happened, even if AG had nothing to do with it, I can easily see how she could feel responsible/guilty and/or even feel like the rest of the family is blaming her. Add to this that this is a very public case and there is so much speculation that AG and/or her husband are involved and that many in the media/social media are openly saying they are guilty. Imagine how difficult it must be to deal with your mom being missing under this circumstances and then having to cope with the public blame and worry if your own siblings may believe you are responsible. And even if they aren't "responsible" in the sense that they harmed NG, the pain of feeling responsible because you were the last one to see her and that you didn't keep her safe and wondering if your own siblings are questioning your involvement must be unbearable.

One of the things I love about Websleuths is that it is victim-friendly so I am kind of surprised that there has been so much posted here openly accusing AG and/or TC of being involved. I understand and respect that Websleuths is where we share our thoughts, theories, etc but I always thought that we weren't supposed to speculate about someone's involvement unless/until they were named a person of interest by LE. I really hope that AG (and TC) had nothing to do with this and that somehow the family will be able to heal at some point.

Yeah. I very much want to believe they're not involved. It genuinely seemed like NG loved them deeply, they all looked happy in the Christmas photo, she spoke about how much she loved AG's son, AG was probably doing a lot in helping her etc. It's just been tough with AB saying her "source" told her the SIL was a top suspect (which I could discount), but then also them searching and photographing AG's house for a long time and taking a lot of stuff out of it.

I truly hope there's an innocent explanation and the home searching/photographing was for routine reasons...

 

[SMK777]

Maybe they were only told that she’s in a “hole”? , therefore the map and manhole preliminary search?

Quite possibly, yes.

 

[emigrate]

I consider the same.

I was wondering if she maybe had a little incident where she damaged it hitting something not of value and didn't want to hear about it from her daughter, maybe again. Maybe she isn't driving as well as she used to and her kids have tried to get her to stop driving? So maybe she took the uber because she didn't want a lecture? It is odd to take an uber for a 4 mile drive. Did she drink wine? Maybe she thought she would have some wine at her bday and didn't want to drive even 4 miles back home after having some? So much we don't know. I find it funny sometimes how my family members who are not into true crime just hear me talking about a case and they will spit out the most common sense answer to the whole thing. After watching so many cases I always want to compare current ones with past ones but this one I can't think of one that even comes close to this.

 

[jillybean51]

Yes agreed we even talked about different kinds of septic covers, whether earth had been disturbed and checking to see if lid had been lifted recently.

We talked about it the first time we saw a truck with a tank on the back.

 

[birdbox]

Have any SIL or AG coworkers, bosses, neighbors, acquaintances chimed in?

 

[LMDlong]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020559128121544834

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I ish we nknew when the image was taken.
If it was taken at her daughter’s home that evening then the family might know how she injured herself.
She could have scraped her home leaving home , blotted it with a tissue , the bandaged it at her daughters home.
Elderly people have skin that is like tissue paper . And with NG having heart problems more than likely she is on blood thinners or aspirin that will make a small scrape bleed like crazy.

 

[shonyakay]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020574764776194478

Less than an hour? Seems like they are just being thorough in their continued investigation.

 

[Walela]

Exactly





Could it be possible that someone didn't want her covering the Olympics because they wanted someone else to cover it, not because of her politics, simply for the exposure or experience?

If that were the case, I think it would be an expensive and troublesome way to accomplish that goal in addition to exposing oneself to felony kidnapping charges and prison time.

 

[lisasimpson2010]

I have had the same experience about something the whole world knows took place except ChatGPT. When I provided evidence from Grok, MSM that proved him wrong, he got mad and started responding in all CAPS saying things like "YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO ME VERY CAREFULLY NOW!" He refused to back down so I did cause his tone was scary! So, if ChatGPT is a little glitchy about big things, I can only imagine what else he's sure about that isn't accurate.

Exactly, Grok is programmed specifically to have "user compliance", and there have been experiments showing how easy it is to train it to give a specific wrong answer to something, just by repeating that wrong answer over and over again.

If I wanted to train it to answer the question, "Where was Donald Trump born" with "on the planet Qo'noS", it wouldn't be that hard to do.

The reason the computer programme's algorithm generated words that read as "mad" is because those are the same words that other humans who use it (or whose data has been fed into it) use, in relation to the same subject. "YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO ME VERY CAREFULLY NOW" sounds exactly like the kind of thing people would type to Grok, leading to it reciting those same lines back to you.

I don't mean to be rude, but I honestly think it's dangerous to anthropomorphise a mindless computer programme by referring to it as "he" or assigning human emotions like "got mad" or "wouldn't back down." A computer programme displaying text that another person originally wrote isn't "not backing down", it's simply displaying the data that's already been fed into it. You typing in the media proof introduced new data, so the next person who asked, likely received a different dataset in response.

 

[SaraSmile]

Not following. They want the bitcoin paid by a deadline or they'll kill the lady. Pressure to get paid. Apparently they have not received any ransom payment yet and are upping the ante with a deadline and a threat.

I don't know why, but I feel strongly that the word "celebrate" was strange and really out of place given the situation. I think it was a code word. Maybe the kidnappers provided the family with certain words in order to communicate something entirely different. Remember that the kidnappers initially stated, "You will have no way of contacting us." Does that make sense?

We just don’t really know, FBI likely wrote the wording out, SG used their wording when she spoke.
I just got the impression from the video, that the family knows Nancy passed away, they want her body back.
JMO

 

[MCB1151]

One thing I’m extremely certain of.

When this case is ultimately resolved, the affidavits in support of the search warrants are going to absolutely incredible.

THIS. I am SO interested in the probable cause for these warrants.

 

[GussiedCanoodler]

So, LE only have one person’s word about her return?

I think so, yes. Which is why a lot of people have been thinking the son in law may have been involved.

ETA: to clarify, from the information LE has released, this is the only confirmation. They did not say that were not OTHER methods to confirm if she came home.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Exactly. What I’m saying is if AG/SIL are innocent, there is a reason why they had to check on NG. If they are innocent it’s not a hard timeline to explain, for what reason did they check in on her and go to her house at 11:56. 8 days later and we don’t have that answer? Cmon

where are you getting this data??? Please show us a link.... tia

 

[stmichael]

I ish we nknew when the image was taken.
If it was taken at her daughter’s home that evening then the family might know how she injured herself.
She could have scraped her home leaving home , blotted it with a tissue , the bandaged it at her daughters home.
Elderly people have skin that is like tissue paper . And with NG having heart problems more than likely she is on blood thinners or aspirin that will make a small scrape bleed like crazy.

Could be an IV/injection site bruising. I get tapped through the forearm. Bruising is common on older people for IV sites. My mothers hands would be completely black and blue on the surface side.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

If it is TC, he didn't outsmart them, just delayed the discovery of his involvement. I would like to have seen NG returned last Tuesday or ideally, never taken in the first place, but the initial communication set a 7 - 8 day time period. It will be a shame and a travesty if he is involved but even more of a travesty if he cannot be prosecuted due to overlooked or missing evidence resulting from a hurried investigation. I have every confidence that whomever perpetrated this horrible crime will be identified and solid evidence that cannot be disputed will be brought to light. I can wait for that end of things but I hope there isn't any more waiting for the return of NG. I believe her kidnapping and/or murder will not go unpunished.

Has there been any sighting of TC since AB reported he was allegedly involved?

 

[Vegasgrl]

It's difficult to know without being close to anyone in the family, but what if AG is scared, not guilty. Could there be DV going on? Her body language appears unusual to some, I agree. It's such a major stressful situation and everyone reacts in their own way. But, what if she is scared for her own safety?