AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[clearskies1]

So, LE only have one person’s word about her return?

You might expect that though -- she may not be likely to contact anyone btwn the alleged drop off time (about 10pm) and when she disappeared. You are dropped off and go to bed.

 

[shonyakay]

Is it unusual that they haven't even named a person of interest, or did Ashleigh Banfield make that unnecessary?

 

[mikeshanty]

Has there been any sighting of TC since AB reported he was allegedly involved?

No - there were some photos of him with AG earlier in the week. Nothing since. I believe he is being interviewed extensively or possibly already arrested.

 

[emigrate]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020574764776194478

Why don't they spend more time, just canvas it all. Why "oh lets go check the tank today" (8 days later) This seems so odd there wouldn't be a huge crew searching every nook and cranny right off.

 

[birdbox]

Who discovered she was missing again? Did AG go to her house and then call 911 or just call 911? I feel this is very pertinent info seeing how close they live. If my mom, im driving like a bat outta hell to her house if im worried, then im calling 911.

 

[*LD*]

IMO, this was not planned. It was an act of passion. The perp or perps spent the hours of 9pm to 4am . .? Freaking out and trying to come up with a cover and hide the body. There may be help from a third individual.

I do hope that a reporter can ask the sheriff what actually triggered the search for Nancy on Sunday since LE has since removed the "call from a church member" from the official timeline.b

 

[tbgo]

Has there been any sighting of TC since AB reported he was allegedly involved?

Yes. The two of them trying to cover their faces in a car.

 

[shonyakay]

So, LE only have one person’s word about her return?

We don't know. For instance, we don't know what his cell data shows.

 

[aafromaa]

Could be an IV/injection site bruising. I get tapped through the forearm. Bruising is common on older people for IV sites. My mothers hands would be completely black and blue on the surface side.

Agreed - sometimes when I would take mine to a new doctor I was afraid they were going to think I had been abusing her - it wasn’t just her hands but all up and down her arms and legs and if she bumped into a table with her torso it would get that way too

 

[Moonsie]

People instinctively suspect whoever was:
last to see the person, physically nearby, or involved in routine logistics (rides, visits, caregiving)
That doesn’t mean wrongdoing, it just means access. The public often confuses access with guilt.
I think it highly irresponsible of AB to say what she said about SIL. Rumors are especially dangerous here. Once a name starts circulating confirmation bias kicks in, normal behavior gets reinterpreted, grief responses get judged as guilt or indifference.
That can permanently damage lives, even when police never suspected the person at all.
The phrase “last known person to see her” is incredibly misleading. That’s just a timeline anchor. It is not an accusation. Police treat it as neutral data.
The public treats it like a smoking gun. I believe that’s a mistake.
Investigations don’t follow public logic.
They follow evidence, and evidence unfolds slowly. What’s loud right now is speculation. What’s quiet is the real work.
The public’s understanding of what’s happening behind the scenes is not their operational priority. I do think LEO and FBI and the family know and have known much more than what’s being disclosed. There’s a reason for that. The public knows what they want us to know. Prayers for Nancy and family. MOO

Welcome to WS! Thank you for this perspective.

moo.

 

[emigrate]

Have any SIL or AG coworkers, bosses, neighbors, acquaintances chimed in?

Someone days back said the sil and his bandmate (especially the bandmate) needed a good looking into. Not sure who said it but I read it in this thread.

 

[Wishbone]

I was wondering if she maybe had a little incident where she damaged it hitting something not of value and didn't want to hear about it from her daughter, maybe again. Maybe she isn't driving as well as she used to and her kids have tried to get her to stop driving? So maybe she took the uber because she didn't want a lecture? It is odd to take an uber for a 4 mile drive. Did she drink wine? Maybe she thought she would have some wine at her bday and didn't want to drive even 4 miles back home after having some? So much we don't know. I find it funny sometimes how my family members who are not into true crime just hear me talking about a case and they will spit out the most common sense answer to the whole thing. After watching so many cases I always want to compare current ones with past ones but this one I can't think of one that even comes close to this.

Maybe she didn't want to drive home in the dark as many seniors try to avoid that. But I find it odd that her daughter or son in law didn't drive that short distance and pick her up to begin with. JMOO

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I ish we nknew when the image was taken.
If it was taken at her daughter’s home that evening then the family might know how she injured herself.
She could have scraped her home leaving home , blotted it with a tissue , the bandaged it at her daughters home.
Elderly people have skin that is like tissue paper . And with NG having heart problems more than likely she is on blood thinners or aspirin that will make a small scrape bleed like crazy.

I seriously doubt it was taken that evening.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Savannah described her mother as being in constant pain in the first video. However, I would need to know who was present for dinner before I could conclude anything else. I am very concerned that SIL was involved because it appears that he was "the last to see".

And I dont think the ransom note is a random jerk because they seemed to know things about the crime scene that one could not guess. Beyond that I'm not prepared to go.

Well, quite honestly, "I am in constant pain too** .... I do have to work around it...but that is what I/ we do....
There is nothing frail about me!! And I don't think there is with Nancy either.

**complex back surgery that went wrong....

 

[justwannahelp]

As with everything, there’s always an alternative explanation. Maybe they opened the garage door and then she decided she wanted to go in through the front door, so the garage door was closed. Maybe they sat and chatted in the car and she was ready to launch as soon as the garage door opened.

Yes. Life isn’t always perfect little minutes and seconds.

I always think that if i was murdered or went missing, people would be totally stumped by timelines. I’m ADD and nothing i do makes sense
You should see me try to clean my house

For example, IF her phone was indeed in her car—

if it was me, there’d be a simple explanation—
i went to my car with my phone after being dropped off to get a seltzer water from a 12 pack that i still hadn’t taken out of my car from a Costco trip a week ago. When i was breaking the case open, i put my phone down and forgot to pick it back up. Once i was all comfy in bed, i realized i forgot my phone in my car and was too tired to go back out and get it.

Now, in reality, i would go and get my phone because i fall asleep playing zen word. But someone else all comfy might think meh I’ll get it on my way to church in the morning. I don’t need it.

Again this is if her phone really was in her car. No one has confirmed or denied this. They are being sketchy with the wording.

 

[MCB1151]

The thing is too that LE has been there and last night with searching /photo equipment/lights it appears. They HAVE to have a suspicion for a reason. IMO

You're exactly right - they can't just have a hunch, they have to have a level of reasonable suspicion that prompted an affidavit for a search warrant.

 

[Bluewing3102]

I, myself have never interacted with AG. However, I have direct family who has met and interacted with her on multiple occasions. They testify that AG gave off a distant and stubborn demeanor.

I say this to just clarify- I think this is normal behavior for her. So the little bit we see of her in the highly scripted instagram videos should not be held against her to judge her character

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[academyrd]

where are you getting this data??? Please show us a link....

I have a well constructed time-line of hard facts, that was created by a WSer...
but it shows no "checking on" or anything about this 11:56.

This is a big deal, and really does alter the thinking... so hope to get the facts link.
tia.

It’s the first timeline data point the next day. “11:56 AM family checks on Nancy”

 

[Ladyotm]

I am undecided/not convinced that AG and/or her husband has anything to do with NG's disappearance. If they do, I hope they are prosecuted to the fullest extent. If they don't, I can't imagine the pain that they and the rest of the family is and will go through for the rest of their lives.



One of the things I love about Websleuths is that it is victim-friendly so I am kind of surprised that there has been so much posted here openly accusing AG and/or TC of being involved. I understand and respect that Websleuths is where we share our thoughts, theories, etc but I always thought that we weren't supposed to speculate about someone's involvement unless/until they were named a person of interest by LE. I really hope that AG (and TC) had nothing to do with this and that somehow the family will be able to heal at some point.

I second everything you said. I’ve been surprised at some of the comments I’ve seen as well. I also am not particularly active here, but in some other high profile cases I followed (Mollie Tibbits, the students in Moscow), people were pretty quick to point fingers and accuse people who ended up having absolutely nothing to do with the case. As of what we know right now, they are just as much victims as everyone else in the family.

I'm not convinced either and am surprised that their names have been openly allowed to be discussed.

 

[birdbox]

Has there been any sighting of TC since AB reported he was allegedly involved?

Also as you all remember with Kaylee Anthony delaying the discovery of a body and it being highly decomposed when found can help a person get away with the crime. Its much harder to deal with a totally decomposed body. A biology teacher would get that.