Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Napoli]

If the family is involved and the ranson is just tailgated, this really complicates things for the family. Do we suppose the ransom is all coming from SG?

Why is everyone so hung up on money and financial worth of the family? It really sounds mercenary. IMO, it's been a week and only last night did they say "we will pay". They know no more now than theu did when she disappeared and no money has changed hands and 530 tomorrow is a deadline. Playing games as to if the ransom demand is real or not, is risky business. They waited too long. IMO, this woman will not be recovered alive. Too much BS..red herrings like the AB story about TC, and wayyyy too much time wasted. Why would you barter for your mother's life? JMO.. I am getting disgusted with the obsession as to who is worth what and who pays. You can always make more money but you cant make more time. MOO

 

[emigrate]

Maybe she didn't want to drive home in the dark as many seniors try to avoid that. But I find it odd that her daughter or son in law didn't drive that short distance and pick her up to begin with. JMOO

Maybe she felt like she IS a bother to them and didn't want to burden them with picking her up. I wonder what their relationship was like the past few years. I wonder if the daughter gets short with her and if the SIL does tons of smart remarks and eye rolls at her. We cannot rule out elder abuse no matter how sweet other family members seem. Maybe they have been abusing her and threatening if she tells SG something worse will happen. I hate to even be saying this scenario but we don't know. I hope I am wrong, she is still alive, the kidnappers have a change of heart blah blah blah but this is where I am at currently. Elder abuse that maybe went further than usual. Maybe only the SIL is abusive to her but that still makes AG guilty of not helping her and reporting it, even if AG is afraid of him herself.

I hope this isn't the case. I was abused my entire childhood and my grandparents enabled my mother letting her bring me over beaten/bruises and welts (done by my "father") and she would call me off school until the visible things would fade away. Then I would have to go back into that abusive situation until I was 18. Not trying to throw a pity party for myself but just using my childhood and saying the same thing can happen in your golden years but in reverse, the kid or their spouse abusing the parent. Not because the parent ever abused said child, just because the child is a mean sob or their spouse is. People going to lengths to keep you quiet and threatening "if you tell anyone it will be worse next time". So many children and elders being abused 24/7 and it is just not given a thought or care. Why are there not any commercials about poor children and elders being abused and asking for donations to help "those in need" like they do with all the other causes on tv 24/7?

No matter which way this happened and the end result it is disgusting. Even if she is returned alive and well it doesn't change the hell and fear she went through. People make me so sick I can't help picturing her struggling at her age with some abusive creep.

 

[MCB1151]

If a search warrant was given for AG property (assuming for last night and today) would they also search their work pcs? Look at chat gpt searches, Google history, Google location of SIL and AG? If a premeditated event, wouldn't you maybe hide under the cover of a work pc to look up maps, routes, tools needed, etc?

It would depend on the scope of the warrant that was granted. If it covers any/all electronic devices inside the residence then yeah, they could search those. It just depends on what probable cause prompted the signed search warrant.

 

[samiam33]

As with everything, there’s always an alternative explanation. Maybe they opened the garage door and then she decided she wanted to go in through the front door, so the garage door was closed. Maybe they sat and chatted in the car and she was ready to launch as soon as the garage door opened.

Also, my MIL opens her garage with a keypad attached to the side of the garage, which she opens as she is ready to walk in. There are many different scenarios which allow for 2 minutes to be a realistic amount of time from open until close.

 

[BrittMontero]

The search of AG's house really intrigues me. I can imagine a search at the start of the investigation, that makes total sense. But to return late at night a week later, and possibly be using Luminol (given reports about the dim lighting/photography) seems very strange. Could this be done as a matter of routine, just to rule out the local family members?

Was anyone else at the dinner besides TC and AG?

(Hi everyone. I have been a member of WS's various iterations since the very, very early days when the main focus was JonBenet, but haven't been around much in recent years. So grateful for all of your info and observations regarding this case. It's so tragic and yet fascinating.)

 

[nhmemorymaker]

A timeline of the disappearance of and search for Nancy Guthrie

Five days into the desperate search for 84-year-old Guthrie, the mother of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie, investigators on Thursday released a detailed timeline.

www.pbs.org

Thanks for bringing this forward @CandyKiss , it is the same timeline I have.

Saturday, Jan. 31​

• 5:32 p.m. — Nancy Guthrie takes an Uber to her family's home for dinner
• 9:48 p.m. — Guthrie is dropped off at her Tucson, Arizona, home by a family member. The garage door opens
• 9:50 p.m. — The garage door closes

Sunday, Feb. 1​

• 1:47 a.m. — The doorbell camera is disconnected.
• 2:12 a.m. — The camera's software detects movement, but there is no video available since Guthrie did not have an active subscription with the company, meaning the footage was not saved.
• 2:28 a.m. — Guthrie's pacemaker app disconnects from her phone.
• 11:56 a.m. — Guthrie's family checks on her after she did not show up at church.
• 12:03 p.m. — Guthrie's family calls 911 to report a missing person.
• 12:15 p.m. — Investigators arrive and launch a search operation, including the use of drones and search dogs.
• 6:46 p.m. — The Pima County Sheriff's Department posts on social media to announce Guthrie's disappearance.
• 9 p.m. — Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos speaks to reporters near Guthrie's house and says he hopes it is a search and rescue mission.

I would encourage anyone to make a copy of this timeline---to allow for a memory checks,

A timeline of the disappearance of and search for Nancy Guthrie

Five days into the desperate search for 84-year-old Guthrie, the mother of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie, investigators on Thursday released a detailed timeline.

www.pbs.org

 

[MCB1151]

Could he be in a federal jail, or is that not how it works?

Would depend on the charge he was detained on and whether it was a federal crime (the bitcoin/ransom/computer stuff is federal)

 

[UK Girl]

Why is everyone so hung up on money and financial worth of the family? It really sounds mercenary. IMO, it's been a week and only last night did they say "we will pay". They know no more now than theu did when she disappeared and no money has changed hands and 530 tomorrow is a deadline. Playing games as to if the ransom demand is real or not, is risky business. They waited too long. IMO, this woman will not be recovered alive. Too much BS..red herrings like the AB story about TC, and wayyyy too much time wasted. Why would you barter for your mother's life? JMO.. I am getting disgusted with the obsession as to who is worth what and who pays. You can always make more money but you cant make more time. MOO

How do you know its red herrings about TC?

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

I think her health and mobility wasn’t that bad or else they would have picked her up, I don’t think the Uber thing is particularly suspicious or odd.

 

[Walela]

Has there been any sighting of TC since AB reported he was allegedly involved?

none that I know of and I've been checking as often as I can. I've seen 2 pictures, one with a dark beard and one with the same style beard but grey mixed with black hairs.

 

[mikeshanty]

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The search of AG's house really intrigues me. I can imagine a search at the start of the investigation, that makes total sense. But to return late at night a week later, and possibly be using Luminol (given reports about the dim lighting/photography) seems very strange. Could this be done as a matter of routine, just to rule out the local family members?

Was anyone else at the dinner besides TC and AG?

(Hi everyone. I have been a member of WS's various iterations since the very, very early days when the main focus was JonBenet, but haven't been around much in recent years. So grateful for all of your info and observations regarding this case. It's so tragic and yet fascinating.)

I don't think LE go around doing luminal testing as a matter of routine. In my experience, it's usually where there are strong grounds to suspect a crime has been committed or even existing evidence the crime was in fact committed there and they need to do further testing for fluids.

 

[MarciB]

Abducting someone’s mother to stop them reporting at the Olympic is insane, I’m not buying into that theory at all

me, either

 

[No it's not]

JMO
The reason they picked the word “celebrate”, is because Nancy has passed. I could be wrong.
I agree “ celebrate with her” is awkward. I think this means they want her body back to have a proper funeral and body burial.

I thought of CELEBRITE…UFED Touch2..Universal Forensic Extraction Device

Play with words..?

Cheers,
Nin

 

[SRWCF]

where are you getting this data??? Please show us a link....

I have a well constructed time-line of hard facts, that was created by a WSer...
but it shows no "checking on" or anything about this 11:56.

This is a big deal, and really does alter the thinking... so hope to get the facts link.
tia.

I think OP is referring to them checking on NG the next morning at 11:56am shortly after they got a worried call from one of NG's church going friends.

 

[aafromaa]

Would authorities possibly keep the information private?

I’m not sure they could do that IF an arrest i actually made. But they can “detain” for a certain period of time before arresting and I don’t think that has to be released and while I don’t know all the rules about such things i do know that sometimes they don’t want to make the arrest too early because then they only have a certain amount of time for a defendant to go before a judge - I guess to consider bail or something - and they like to have all their ducks in a row before they reach that point.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

The search of AG's house really intrigues me. I can imagine a search at the start of the investigation, that makes total sense. But to return late at night a week later, and possibly be using Luminol (given reports about the dim lighting/photography) seems very strange. Could this be done as a matter of routine, just to rule out the local family members?

Was anyone else at the dinner besides TC and AG?

(Hi everyone. I have been a member of WS's various iterations since the very, very early days when the main focus was JonBenet, but haven't been around much in recent years. So grateful for all of your info and observations regarding this case. It's so tragic and yet fascinating.)

I do not believe anyone has been able to answer your question..
Very early, we were trying to figure that out.
The only suggestion (as far as I can recall) was the child of AG and TC..


It would have been nice if they had taken pictures!!!!!

 

[LisaCougar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020567694613807521

 

[SMK777]

JMO
The reason they picked the word “celebrate”, is because Nancy has passed. I could be wrong.
I agree “ celebrate with her” is awkward. I think this means they want her body back to have a proper funeral and body burial.

Agreed. They could have said, "so we can have a loving homecoming and reunion and hug her tightly." As soon as I heard the word, "celebrate" I thought immediately of "Celebration of Life".

 

[soap mama]

Metal detectors at NG

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020573429750263920

 

[MCB1151]

I know, right? I really do always think about this. My poor husband and kids would be saying no but you don’t know her. She probably did this or this or this. And LE would think they were absolutely crazy. I’ll go to get a Diet Coke at the nearby circle K and end up sitting in my car for an hour checking emails. Life 360 is a great thing for people like me. lol

And it would appear there was a struggle in my situation, always. Agree on the Life360 lol

I think this illustrates though how difficult it can be to decipher intentions/movements/actions not just from behind a computer screen but literally standing in a crime scene. Sometimes things make obvious sense. Sometimes it's just chaos you hope you can put together.