AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[DanceCard]

Have we ever had actual perps sign up and come in and converse, of course not letting us know they are the perp. Do they ever sign up and come in asking questions like trying to use this place to help them hide things or escape, like with questions that gave them away?

Yes! It was a long time ago and I forgot the details. Hopefully someone can recall the exact case but it was a case in Florida.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

In regards to so many saying the search at AG house last night confirms he is/they are suspects, surely for the sake of a future trial of anyone else, LE would want to be able to say, "We searched the SIL's house repeatedly, luminoled it, processed their vehicles, etc. and found absolutely no evidence they were involved. And we have pictures of the luminol tests to prove there's no blood there!" At this point, if SIL hasn't been arrested after all that scrutiny, it makes me think he's less likely to have been involved rather than more.

Exactly. And if he moved a body there would likely be evidence in a vehicle and possibly cell phone data, and you've got a spouse who would have to corroborate an alibi. I think LE would have sussed that all out already.

 

[CandyKiss]

Thanks for bringing this forward @CandyKiss , it is the same timeline I have.

Saturday, Jan. 31​

• 5:32 p.m. — Nancy Guthrie takes an Uber to her family's home for dinner
• 9:48 p.m. — Guthrie is dropped off at her Tucson, Arizona, home by a family member. The garage door opens
• 9:50 p.m. — The garage door closes

Sunday, Feb. 1​

• 1:47 a.m. — The doorbell camera is disconnected.
• 2:12 a.m. — The camera's software detects movement, but there is no video available since Guthrie did not have an active subscription with the company, meaning the footage was not saved.
• 2:28 a.m. — Guthrie's pacemaker app disconnects from her phone.
• 11:56 a.m. — Guthrie's family checks on her after she did not show up at church.
• 12:03 p.m. — Guthrie's family calls 911 to report a missing person.
• 12:15 p.m. — Investigators arrive and launch a search operation, including the use of drones and search dogs.
• 6:46 p.m. — The Pima County Sheriff's Department posts on social media to announce Guthrie's disappearance.
• 9 p.m. — Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos speaks to reporters near Guthrie's house and says he hopes it is a search and rescue mission.

I would encourage anyone to make a copy of this timeline---to allow for a memory checks,

Arizona authorities provide timeline leading up to Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance

Authorities in Arizona continue their investigation into the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s mother, Nancy Guthrie.

www.uppermichiganssource.com

 

[cady]

I get your point. I would never do that to my parents, but everyone is different. If they had been drinking, it was a wise choice of course.
However, no mention of alcohol, so IDK.

If that were true, neither one of them should have driven her home.

 

[mikeshanty]

Another sign that I think LE have no clue what is happening is the lack of leaks or tipoffs, with the exception of the AB tipoff (which seems to be the only one).

 

[jellybean96]

I don't know.

With each day that passes, does it not become less likely the case will ever be solved?

Aren't the first few days sort of critical in missing person cases? And a week with nothing is not a great sign?

Yes, the first days are critical. But I think this is solvable. IMHO LE dropped the ball in the beginning, big time.

 

[Cassie P]

celebration of life, either way. Just produce our Mom.

Yes this is how I read it too. Produce our mother, dead or alive. We will pay the money either way.

But it sounds like to me they believe she is dead?

 

[slueth1111]

Have we ever had actual perps sign up and come in and converse, of course not letting us know they are the perp. Do they ever sign up and come in asking questions like trying to use this place to help them hide things or escape, like with questions that gave them away?

Gannon Stauch step mom did

 

[Arkay]

But she didn't live there so why go to the mothers if they in fact wanted Savannah? I dont think her daughter was a target at all sorry.

But isn’t Bitcoin accessible anywhere?

Yes, Savannah covering the Olympics as usual would keep her busy, but obviously she’d have immediately gone to Tucson once this happened.

I just don’t believe she’d have had to be in America to send crypto. She just has to be here to search for her mother.

I respect all opinions. IMO though this tragedy has zero to do with co-workers wanting to oust Savannah from anchoring NBC’s Olympic coverage.

Craig Melvin and the rest are respected journalists who’ve made it to the top of a major American news show. I cannot fathom them extorting Savannah by kidnapping her mother. Besides that they are colleagues and friends, they have too much to lose.

And they also earn their own giant salaries, are also famous, and all have families with young children. IMO the cons definitely outweigh the pros.

JMO

 

[shadowsc]

Metal detectors at NG

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020573429750263920

I just do not understand why this house hasn't stayed locked down as a crime scene while Nancy is still missing. It's not even like anyone else is living there. Meaning, no other family member needs to get back in or get belongings or has nowhere else to sleep. There was absolutely zero rush to turn it back over and keep it preserved. Unless it was very deliberately left open to see if a culprit returned to the scene, makes no sense. Even the Sheriff was like, "yeah maybe we released it too soon" unless that was part of a bumbling folksy deliberate act.

 

[Napoli]

I'm not sure why it matters if the perp is reading this thread? Are you suggesting that we not comment? There is analysis and comments all over the place, not just here.

I meant the entire Nancy Guthrie thread ...all 600+ pages. People are hung up on garage door vs front door. An 84 y. o. woman being out until 945 pm. Back in the day, the family of the missing person was off limits for discussion here as they were considered victims. To speculate about SG's net worth is cruel. Who is making the payment is cruel. To say it's not even a real kidnapping is cruel. Why not discuss clues? Timelines? People in her circle with police records? Where are the volunteers looking and handing out flyers? Something is very off with this case. Please consider the "who pays the ransom", and the worth of SG vs that of her sister and brother as gossipy. When a case starts to go cold, and this HAS, the conversation deteriorates. If the perp does read these comments, Please drop this lady off in a safe area. The family says they are willing to pay. Please let this family have their mom back. MOO

 

[LRinCA]

But I don’t think its been established that she didn’t use a keypad to get into garage in which case she would only be standing there waiting for garage door to open them close it again after walking into garage. Am I misunderstanding somethg?

This is the one explanation that makes the most sense re: the time between opening and closing. We have a keypad on both of our garage doors and we use it all the time.

 

[MSGulfCoast]

That's not a septic tank in BE's post.

Cops seen searching septic tank behind Nancy Guthrie’s Arizona house in latest twist

 

[rosesfromangels]

I have seen a lot of people saying "would you/they pay ransom for the body"

But at that point, though I'm sure yes you would prefer to have the body returned, that isn't really what you're paying for. You're paying for certainty. Not having that, and going through the rest of your life without it, would truly be horrendous - that's the real high value thing here, not the body itself.

I will also add that many people consider earthly remains sacred, and they want a burial and repose consistent with their beliefs. This is why you see people decade after decade visiting a loved one’s burial spot and lovingly leaving flowers, cleaning the headstone and so forth. For many, there is a deep spiritual connection to the remains.

Amateur opinion and speculation only

 

[Vegasgrl]

FBI could be making progress with that Bitcoin connection. They never made anything public in the past, but maybe they know more than we assume. They would not want it out there if they could trace some Bitcoin transactions. The messenger may not be a super-mastermind, but a regular mastermind. Maybe they did their training for this online (dark web) and are not as clever as we've been assuming.

 

[Jo in Calif]

Yes! It was a long time ago and I forgot the details. Hopefully someone can recall the exact case but it was a case in Florida.

Abraham Shakespeare, a Florida man who won a $30 million lottery jackpot in 2006

 

[tkcrockett]

I do not believe anyone has been able to answer your question..
Very early, we were trying to figure that out.
The only suggestion (as far as I can recall) was the child of AG and TC..


It would have been nice if they had taken pictures!!!!!

i get stuck on the luminol pictures part...if investigators used luminol to search for blood then took pictures ....wouldn't that mean they found blood? If nothing found, no need for pictures. Right??

 

[Ontario Mom]

Have we ever had actual perps sign up and come in and converse, of course not letting us know they are the perp. Do they ever sign up and come in asking questions like trying to use this place to help them hide things or escape, like with questions that gave them away?

Yes. How amateur web sleuths helped solve the case of missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare

 

[UK Girl]

But isn’t Bitcoin accessible anywhere?

Yes, Savannah covering the Olympics as usual would keep her busy, but obviously she’d have immediately gone to Tucson once this happened.

I just don’t believe she’d have had to be in America to send crypto. She just has to be here to search for her mother.

I respect all opinions. IMO though this tragedy has zero to do with co-workers wanting to oust Savannah from anchoring NBC’s Olympic coverage.

Craig Melvin and the rest are respected journalists who’ve made it to the top of a major American news show. I cannot fathom them extorting Savannah by kidnapping her mother. Besides that they are colleagues and friends, they have too much to lose.

And they also earn their own giant salaries, are also famous, and all have families with young children. IMO the cons definitely outweigh the pros.

But isn’t Bitcoin accessible anywhere?

Yes, Savannah covering the Olympics as usual would keep her busy, but obviously she’d have immediately gone to Tucson once this happened.

I just don’t believe she’d have had to be in America to send crypto. She just has to be here to search for her mother.

I respect all opinions. IMO though this tragedy has zero to do with co-workers wanting to oust Savannah from anchoring NBC’s Olympic coverage.

Craig Melvin and the rest are respected journalists who’ve made it to the top of a major American news show. I cannot fathom them extorting Savannah by kidnapping her mother. Besides that they are colleagues and friends, they have too much to lose.

And they also earn their own giant salaries, are also famous, and all have families with young children. IMO the cons definitely outweigh the pros.

JMO

My point was if they wanted to kidnap Savannah they would have done it from her own home. They would not have gone to her mothers in the middle of the night where she did not live to do it.

 

[Cebavl]

I seriously think that Pima County is keeping the podcasters/reporters/media busy with these searches so they can do their real work behind the scenes.

It seems like divide and conquer imo. Sheriff is checked out. FBI is in control, but leading in the background. Focusing on strategy, evidence testing/analysis, extracting data from technology, ransom investigation, etc.

FBI is then sending sheriff deputies out on location and as needed to collect more data/investigate. FBI is the mastermind, with Sheriff’s department as their minions.

I also think they’re still investigating multiple possible leads at this point, which is why if feels like we keep going back and forth between SIL and ransom kidnapper. Assuming they know more than we think, but not enough to rule anything or anyone out. Hoping, for everyone’s sake, they’re getting close.

JMO