Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Simply Southern]

Residential septage is not hazardous waste.

You are correct I assumed hazardous. It does require “special handling”.

In Virginia,, domestic septic waste is generally
notclassified as hazardous waste under Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA) regulations. While it poses environmental and health risks (biohazardous), it is regulated under separate solid waste and sewage disposal rules, not as a listed hazardous waste.

• Definition: Domestic sewage (untreated sanitary waste) is specifically excluded from being classified as hazardous waste.
• Regulations: Septic systems in Virginia are governed by the Virginia Department of Health (VDH) and local ordinances, focusing on proper treatment and disposal rather than hazardous waste protocols.
• Exception: If septic waste becomes mixed with industrial waste or other materials that make it

 

[txsleuth70]

Just to clarify…I think it was 50 yds.

ETA

 

[slueth1111]

I this case will be a shock when it's solved. I'm sure there is more going on behind the spot light. It bothers me that whoever did it wants the added attention. They think they are smarter than everyone. People like that tend to get caught. At least I hope for this family

 

[mikeshanty]

Per some sleuthing... This may be nothing but Nancy is listed in one corporate filing for a business. Filing date: May 13, 1988.
She is listed as the secretary.
This business lists one man as the President AND treasurer. This business' SEC Status
says Permanently Revoked.

Is there anyone here who knows anything about business filings and can share what these terms mean?

The last amendment was in 2007.

Verification Date
Jan 24, 2024

Date Last Seen
Jan 29, 2024

Date First Seen
Mar 28, 2005

Feels like historic filings? Is it the same NG, there is another one who seems like a public religious figure?

 

[keek]

That's a strange take. Why would the superbowl affect this investigation at all.

They are from Great Britain and this Super Bowl appears around as really a thing that stops everything. IMO

 

[skyedaze]

Cops seen searching septic tank behind Nancy Guthrie’s Arizona house in latest twist

Our vacation/lake house had a septic tank...that's too big an opening for septic. And the tanks are usually close to the house with the field drains going outward, downhill and away.

 

[shonyakay]

Feels like historic filings? Is it the same NG, there is another one who seems like a public religious figure?

It is definitely her it lists her current address.

 

[birdbox]

Would this history make you think the idea of a kidnapping might be top of mind if you are staging a death?

Savannah Guthrie leans on her faith amid her mother’s harrowing disappearance

The day after 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie was taken from her Tucson, Arizona, home under the cover of night, her daughter, Savannah, made a heartbreaking appeal to pray for her mother.

www.wpsdlocal6.com

In a poignant chapter of her book, Savannah Guthrie explains how a family tradition helped her grow closer to God.

During the summers, Guthrie said her cousin Teri would stage a mock “kidnapping” – piling Savannah and her sister, Annie, into a station wagon with their cousins before embarking on a road trip from Tucson to Phoenix.

During the trip the Guthrie girls would find a payphone and call home to their mother who, she writes, “would feign shock … then assure us she’d drive up to retrieve us in a few days.”

Holy crap thats weird.

 

[Moonstrawbs]

Honestly, this is frankly insane that there is no real update a week after an 84 year old woman goes missing. Either a very complex case and they are taking time, or they are completely incompetent.

I agree with this, especially given how much attention this case is currently receiving. But it also makes me think about those who go missing and are only “lucky” enough to get a few articles if that. Jmo.

 

[MCB1151]

True but in many places a federal detainee would still be housed in a county jail - it would where I live - but I did also check bop.com (federal bureau of prisons) and found nothing there either.

It didn't dawn on me that just because my area has a BOP facility nearby not everyone else does lol

 

[stmichael]

Why is everyone so hung up on money and financial worth of the family? It really sounds mercenary. IMO, it's been a week and only last night did they say "we will pay". They know no more now than theu did when she disappeared and no money has changed hands and 530 tomorrow is a deadline. Playing games as to if the ransom demand is real or not, is risky business. They waited too long. IMO, this woman will not be recovered alive. Too much BS..red herrings like the AB story about TC, and wayyyy too much time wasted. Why would you barter for your mother's life? JMO.. I am getting disgusted with the obsession as to who is worth what and who pays. You can always make more money but you cant make more time. MOO

Because money is one of the main motives in many murders and most kidnappings for ransom?

(it is also the number one reason given for divorce and family acrimony)

 

[StarryStarryNight]

1. I absolutely have to agree with your first point.

2. As to your second point:

The 2 may be connected: SIL having some kind of friend or partner continue the ransom ruse which began at the start of an accidental killing ( perhaps during a threat from NG regarding some kind of fraud she was reporting to authorities?) as a coverup story and misdirection.

I thought about that and my only problem with it is, how do you find someone that quickly that is not just capable of perpetuating the ransom thing, but is willing to break the law and receive serious jail time if they are found out.

 

[BrittMontero]

Our old cottage has a septic tank re-done about 30 years ago, and that's about the size of the opening. It is definitely large enough in diameter for a person to descend through it.

 

[cady]

Ok. I think it’s been well established that many of you think NG should have been picked up for dinner. Why are we being so critical of these family victims? They have an unspeakable tragedy on their hands.

Amateur opinion and speculation only

I don't. I Imagine that the Uber was NG's choice and is further proof of her independence. We oldies deeply appreciate assistance when we truly need it, but do not want to be burdensome. It MAY have been a routine that NG would take an Uber to AG's and AG or TC would take her home after dark.

 

[osu]

Gannon Stauch step mom did

IIRC she was posting in the Facebook groups.

JMO

 

[turaj]

Would this history make you think the idea of a kidnapping might be top of mind if you are staging a death?

Savannah Guthrie leans on her faith amid her mother’s harrowing disappearance

The day after 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie was taken from her Tucson, Arizona, home under the cover of night, her daughter, Savannah, made a heartbreaking appeal to pray for her mother.

www.wpsdlocal6.com

In a poignant chapter of her book, Savannah Guthrie explains how a family tradition helped her grow closer to God.

During the summers, Guthrie said her cousin Teri would stage a mock “kidnapping” – piling Savannah and her sister, Annie, into a station wagon with their cousins before embarking on a road trip from Tucson to Phoenix.

During the trip the Guthrie girls would find a payphone and call home to their mother who, she writes, “would feign shock … then assure us she’d drive up to retrieve us in a few days.”

interesting sleuthing for sure.....odd memory of playtime and so weird to consider now.

 

[Bodhi]

i get stuck on the luminol pictures part...if investigators used luminol to search for blood then took pictures ....wouldn't that mean they found blood? If nothing found, no need for pictures. Right??

They need to document that luminol testing showed no indication of blood. If they don't, the veracity, competence, and thoroughness of investigators can be questioned in cross-examination. Documenting the lack of results is necessary.

 

[SMK777]

Does Luminol react to other things, like perhaps pet urine?

Unfortunately, yes. (AI wouldn't link, but said yes )

 

[Shadowtrix]

Metal detectors at NG

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020573429750263920

Metal detectors looking for Apple watch or pacemaker? JMO

 

[tricia]

Can any people familiar with plumbing or house construction determine if this is related to them searching in the tanks today?
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