AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[elliefant]

Yikes. A neighbor's home.

Remembering "Silence of the Lambs" (but memory is vague). I remember Hannibal Lecter advised Jodie Foster's character (Clarice) that a perpetrator wants he frequently sees. And Clarice traveled to a neighborhood where a teen or young adult woman had disappeared some time before the current missing woman and she spoke with a member of that vicim's family and toured the house. And she noticed that that victim had been a seamstress who had patterns and a sewing machine in her room. Then, she noticed the window of that victim's room was overlooked by a window of a neighbor's home. Clarice knocked on that neighbor's door and discovered a man living there in his deceased mother's home and she started asking him questions and began also noticing oddities which eventually led her to the basement where the killer had the current missing woman in a deep hole.

But that is just a story. It could be that a perpetrator is not a neighbor, but a trespasser who uses a neighbor's home and property as he pleases.

ETA: The message expressed by SG in the first video ("Ask her, you'll see) was from SOTL. Is this perpetrator playing sick games?

An episode of Forensic Files was on tv today. It was about Eudora “Doe” Roberts. Her neighbour abducted and killed her, then sent ransom calls/notes.

 

[Wsimm]

A veteran Navy Seal Commander who was involved in many, many kidnap situations (Iraq etc) was a 'best guest" on today's STS Live and he states he personally believes NO way is this a genuine kidnap for ransom.

He claims it appears to be Extortion. The way it's played out just doesn't fit with a genuine kidnap for ransom situation.

I saw him too. I believe he also said something along the lines that you never pay a ransom without proof of life.

 

[missy1974]

If the FBI Director is going there tomorrow, I think that will be to announce an arrest with all that media.

it was made clear by the FBI spokesperson at the last new conference that this was a planned trip before NG went missing.

So I wouldn't read anything into the timing. JMO

 

[doublestop]

MOO but I would imagine there’s a small group of regular, virtual attendees. The video platform has a live chat function so it does seem like they encourage a digital “social aspect.” Maybe she usually texts with someone during the service? There’s a ton of reasons why her absence could have been noticed.

When my mom's church was virtual during covid, on youtube as I recall, people chatted in the comments before and after the service. That might have been a regular thing for Mrs. Guthrie too.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

I wonder if the media has received any additional messages from the alleged kidnapper today or if the family will release another statement ahead of tomorrow’s deadline, especially in light of the LE activity at AG’s home yesterday.

 

[shonyakay]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020622606194643157

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Why Nancy's? Did they mean Annie's? Or do they mean security just for the residence itself?

 

[Beans]

Yes it’s here

I saw a great except from a map showing the utilities layout of the properties on that street, including NG's, but I can't find the original on the Pima website so I haven't shared it yet. It's there somewhere, if anyone else fancies trying to find it too. Their records system is a spaghetti junction of different portals.

 

[Springplease]

I’m pretty sure at this point because I’ve been trying to place it all day and couldn’t until now. This isn’t a great pic (source Fox News drone) but it’s the hvac and wall that didn’t match with NG house. Other source is Google Maps. NG’s property is immaculate. The other is messy.

 

[EmilNomel]

I can't imagine going thru this kind of week without my husband at my side. Haven't heard whether Camron is married (?) but I'm surprised SG's husband isnt there. Kids, school, work, I know, but come on - this is a traumatic life event for SG.

 

[Napoli]

This has probably been posted, but thread is moving so fast, I'm posting just in case, bbm:

The authors of Nancy Guthrie’s ransom note may have exposed themselves as operating outside the US because of one tiny detail in their note – a specification that their multi-million dollar demands be paid out in US dollars, law enforcement experts think.

“Why would you use that if you’re a domestic person? That points to somebody who might be potentially outside the country, which also lends the potential for this being a scam,” former FBI agent Michael Harrigan told The Post.

“If you’re domestic, why would you ever put ‘USD?’ You put six million,” he added.

Savannah Guthrie missing mom live updates: The tiny detail in the Nancy Guthrie ransom note that makes FBI experts think the writers aren’t even in US

Follow the Post’s live updates for the latest news on Savannah Guthrie’s missing mom and the investigation to find Nancy Guthrie, who was last seen on January 31.

nypost.com

Whilst I can fathom an accidental death such as this and a coverup I wonder how these messages were so quickly constructed and routed via ip addresses and how these get sent when the family is under scrutiny.
That bit seems unmanageable without foresight .

I’m inclined to believe this is a true kidnapping by an acquaintance , or stranger who realised Nancys daughter had money

Exactly! This is what I have been trying to convey for hours!

 

[mikeshanty]

If the FBI Director is going there tomorrow, I think that will be to announce an arrest with all that media.

Is that typical for someone of that executive-level seniority to be involved in the case? Unless there is something affecting national security or something much bigger we are not aware of, with respect it seems unusual for executive intervention for what may simply be kidnapping or unaliving by someone known by NG. I may be completely wrong as I do not live in the USA, and understand it may simply be because of the media attention.

 

[TheDinks]

It’s misdirection. Say, for instance, this was a familial murder. The criminal is thinking “I’ll make it look like she was kidnapped by a stranger and held for ransom, so the police don’t look at me.”

And it worked, for a little while. But it won’t work in the long run.

In the consensus of theories, this is the no. 2 thought of many people who have spoken out on the broadcasts I've watched on YT.

No. 1 theory is an opportunist extortion - low life heard about possible abduction and began planning how to use it to gain $$

 

[Cassie P]

The only fact is and verifiable by law inforcement is she got an Uber ride .

Yes, we have no idea what happened once she exited the Uber.

 

[mikeshanty]

I can't imagine going thru this kind of week without my husband at my side. Haven't heard whether Camron is married (?) but I'm surprised SG's husband isnt there. Kids, school, work, I know, but come on - this is a traumatic life event for SG.

We don't know much about the personal circumstances for good reason. SG could very well be surrounded by her family wherever she is staying, but identities and locations undisclosed for security reasons.

 

[Springplease]

Sorry if I did that wrong it’s the first time I’ve attempted to attach a photo.

 

[shadowsc]

"Ms. Guthrie, whom friends have described as a devoted Christian, was expected at church that Sunday morning. But when someone at St. Andrew’s Presbyterian did not see her in the pews, they called her family to check in.

Alerted, Ms. Guthrie’s family rushed to her home, the authorities said. They found her phone, wallet, hearing aid, daily medication and car. But they did not find her. They called 911."

7 Days, No Suspects: The Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

The mother of the “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie has not been heard from since an evening of dinner and games with family members.

www.nytimes.com

Interesting. That seemed to be from the sheriff's first press conference.

Here is the transcript:

Sheriff: We were told she was left at her home by the family. At 11:00 in the morning the family got notice from somebody at church that she was not at church. They went to the home found her to be missing. That's that's the timeline. From Saturday night 9:45 we'll say to Sunday morning 11:00.

Question: Have you interviewed the people that reported her missing? The people from the church?

Sheriff: That's the family. Oh, from the church as well. We're doing all kinds of interviews. Yes, I'm sure we have.

And then, the Megyn Kelly and Brian Entin exchange:

MK: Two other quick questions. The Daily Mail today is reporting that Nancy Guthrie did not attend a church in person and that she hadn't been for years since the COVID pandemic. That instead she'd been participating in the live stream into this church. And then they had one source at the church who told them that the church for the record is not saying that on the record.

Um but they're saying there'd be no way for anybody to know who is participating in the live stream. It's not it's not like a thing where you can see who's joining um you know people live stream in or they don't. Now that would be a material change from the story that the sheriff told which was that somebody at church noticed Nancy wasn't there. She was a religious churchgoer and um that that person called the family out of concern. Have you heard anything on this either way?

BE: So, the church near her house that we went to, the pastor told uh my producer the same thing that the Daily
Mail is reporting that she switched to online after COVID and was didn't come to church on Sundays. I just assumed
maybe she also went to a different church.

 

[louvillian08]

The church told Brian Entin's producers that she had started attending virtually during COVID and never returned. Most things went remote and if Nancy's mobility was limited, that was likely just easier for her. There may have been a livestream, but it wasn't like a "Zoom" call where you have all the participants shown in squares. It seems unlikely that someone would have noticed she wasn't present online, unless someone texted her. But that's not what the sheriff had originally said, so who knows.

It takes two second to look up this information.
You need an account to log in and watch the service. Using Vimeo you can see the attendees and there is a live chat as well.

Church Online | St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church

www.sapctucson.org

 

[stmichael]

With all due respect...if it isnt a kidnaping, where the hell is she? A kidnaping is the unlawful taking or confinement of a person. They havent found her in the house or in the neighborhood. Unless they think she wandered off....I just don't understand why people still think she wasnt kidnapped?

Murder is not kidnapping.
Can you definitively prove she was not first murdered and the body disposed of?

Can you definitively link the emailed ransom note (which we know so little about from second hand sources) to this case? We know fake ransoms happen in national cases like this and we know one fraudster was already arrested in this case.

Right now we just don't know given what's out there, and it seems the investigators are not sure yet either.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Murdered that night and dumped in the desert. The kidnapping is just a red herring to draw attention away from the murder. And possibly to collect a larger insurance payout.

Insurance doesn't make much sense. There has to be a body to collect. Why even take the risk? Why not just wait it out with an elderly person in poor health?

 

[Puzzles8]

Didn’t they say no press conference until Tuesday unless something significant happens?

There are no scheduled press conferences going forward. There is nothing scheduled for Tuesday.

[...]
"The Nancy Guthrie investigation is ongoing. Follow-up continues at multiple locations. No suspects, persons of interest, or vehicles have been identified. No scheduled press briefings. If any significant developments occur in the case, a press conference will be called," the statement reads.
[...]

Authorities Issue New Statement On Nancy Guthrie's Disappearance | WBZ NewsRadio 1030

Authorities have issued a new statement on Nancy Guthrie's disappearance.

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JMO