AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Charlot123]

Sorry if this has already been covered, but IMO, specifying USD is super weird if you're in the US speaking to someone else in the US. You would just say "dollars" in that case.

(Source: born and raised in the US and now living elsewhere else! The weird thing here is specifying the US part. I'm in Canada, where we have Canadian dollars -- I would only ever specify CAD if I'm speaking to an American and don't want them to think we're using the same currency.)

I don't view it is strange. It would fit either a constant traveler, or a person who likes to browse "cool" auctions in GB, US or China for fun. Now, there is a Singapore dollar or Hong Kong dollar so I always mentally translate. I never bought anything from them, of course, but just "to have an idea about the lives of the rich and famous".

 

[browneyes]

The Sherriff has other things on his mind. Like basketball.

Do you do your job 24/7?

 

[browneyes]

Crazy theory: Anyone else think it's suspicious that LE announced increased security around the house and suddenly all reporters on scene have gone quiet as the super bowl is getting ready to start?

What? I don’t understand.

 

[vereb]

Bringing up this post by Tricia again, since many are wondering why it's allowed to discuss family members as suspects here:

SHORT VERSION:
*Family members can be discussed as suspects because the sheriff has not cleared anyone.
*Nancy's very political posts could be a reason for her kidnapping. Any discussions about her postings must be discussed in connection with the kidnapping
*NO POLITICS
*Use initials when discussing the family.

I can’t tell you exactly how to post, but I can ask that you use common sense.
Because the sheriff has not cleared anyone—including family members—discussions about family members are allowed. That’s not my personal opinion; that is the current status of the investigation.
NO POLITICS.
While Nancy’s very vocal political posts may be relevant to why she was taken, that does not open the door to political debate in this thread.
Please remember: your words have power.
What you say here stays on the internet forever. The people being discussed—or their loved ones—may read these posts someday. Keep that in mind before you hit “post.”
Tricia

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

It would be dumb for them to lie about something that could be so easily verified as false so I wonder why they would.
Couldn't they have just stated they decided to go visit her for lunch?

Might have been in total shock about the events that had occurred since the previous evening and just said the first thing that came to their mind.

Shonyakay's suggestion of saying they decided to go visit her for lunch would have been much better.

But, if family was involved, it wasn't likely pre-planned and they may have been out-of-their-minds with stress and not thinking straight.

And, if family involved, why even go over to her house? Why involve LE in this until it's discovered by others?

 

[investigatoroffacts]

I’ve been kind of stuck on the whole “KOLD” thing the past couple days, especially why KOLD News was reportedly the first outlet to receive the ransom message. At first, my brain went straight to the word “old” inside KOLD. But the more I think about it, the more I wonder if “KOLD” itself might actually be intentional and not just a coincidence???

In the crypto world, “COLD” (sometimes written as KOLD) refers to cold storage like a cold wallet, basically offline Bitcoin storage that’s harder to trace. It could also be shorthand for something like “Keep Our Location Discreet.” And interestingly, KOLD is also a real stock ticker (ProShares UltraShort Natural Gas ETF), which could point to someone with a finance/trading mindset?

Not saying any of this proves anything, and merely is my opinion, but “KOLD” has multiple meanings in the crypto/financial world, and it’s definitely an interesting word choice if the ransom message sent to KOLD is legitimate.

 

[mickey2942]

"No suspects". But they got a search warrant for the daughter's house?

I find that interesting. Wouldn't you volunteer for anyone to search your home if police asked, when your Mom is missing? I don't know.

Of course, I refused to get a cat from the shelter, as they had a document that they could search our home. Forget it.

 

[wyome]

Crazy theory: Anyone else think it's suspicious that LE announced increased security around the house and suddenly all reporters on scene have gone quiet as the super bowl is getting ready to start?

YES!!

Absolutely bizarre and almost laughable. Not sure if it's super bowl related, but might as well be. The comment that the Guthrie family requested it is ridiculous in my opinion. LE still needs to do proper searches since we're 7 days in and they dropped the ball.
Yeah okay wink wink.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

The Pima police chief was so loose with words at that first presser that I don’t entirely take everything he said there literally, including his statement about NG being at church. That being said, I find it very curious that he didn’t include the phone call in the latest timeline.

LE wouldn't have fabricated that the family told him that somebody from church called them to let them know she wasn't at church. That's too specific for him to loosely mention it in that first presser. MO

 

[Napoli]

My take from jump was this was 2 separate crimes occurring concurrently. NG was met with foul play it seems & then another person(s) decided to jump on a sad situation in a pathetic attempt to milk some money out of a tragedy. With a kidnapping for ransom, that first communication would have been considered pretty late. Usually kidnappers want to get the message to get the money as soon as possible and get any other message they want the public to know out ASAP, whether to intimidate or in an attempt to apply more pressure for payment.

Why couldn't she have died at the hands of the kidnappers and they went ahead with the ransom requests anyway?

 

[CSIDreamer]

I’ve been kind of stuck on the whole “KOLD” thing the past couple days, especially why KOLD News was reportedly the first outlet to receive the ransom message. At first, my brain went straight to the word “old” inside KOLD. But the more I think about it, the more I wonder if “KOLD” itself might actually be intentional and not just a coincidence???

In the crypto world, “COLD” (sometimes written as KOLD) refers to cold storage like a cold wallet, basically offline Bitcoin storage that’s harder to trace. It could also be shorthand for something like “Keep Our Location Discreet.” And interestingly, KOLD is also a real stock ticker (ProShares UltraShort Natural Gas ETF), which could point to someone with a finance/trading mindset?

Not saying any of this proves anything, and merely is my opinion, but “KOLD” has multiple meanings in the crypto/financial world, and it’s definitely an interesting word choice if the ransom message sent to KOLD is legitimate.

Where are they based?

 

[TheDinks]

I’ve been kind of stuck on the whole “KOLD” thing the past couple days, especially why KOLD News was reportedly the first outlet to receive the ransom message. At first, my brain went straight to the word “old” inside KOLD. But the more I think about it, the more I wonder if “KOLD” itself might actually be intentional and not just a coincidence???

In the crypto world, “COLD” (sometimes written as KOLD) refers to cold storage like a cold wallet, basically offline Bitcoin storage that’s harder to trace. It could also be shorthand for something like “Keep Our Location Discreet.” And interestingly, KOLD is also a real stock ticker (ProShares UltraShort Natural Gas ETF), which could point to someone with a finance/trading mindset?

Not saying any of this proves anything, and merely is my opinion, but “KOLD” has multiple meanings in the crypto/financial world, and it’s definitely an interesting word choice if the ransom message sent to KOLD is legitimate.

Interesting thoughts... sure is out of the box thinking...

 

[investigatoroffacts]

Where are they based?

Where is who based?

 

[nhmemorymaker]

The pastor of her church said that she only does online church.

Somebody in the family who lives in Tucson said that a member of the church contacted them because they were concerned Nancy wasn't in church. If this is true, it seems easily verifiable with the family giving LE the name of the person who contacted them. Clearly if that person had the family's phone number, they would know the family and the family would know them and remember the name of who notified them.

If Nancy didn't go in-person to church and if LE can't get a name from the family about who notified them, this is a red flag. Also, the cell phone of the family member contacted would show a call came in from somebody at church at the time they reported receiving the call.

Like Vegasgirl said, it would be stupid for somebody to tell LE something that could be verified immediately with phone records.

If family really said that somebody from the church contacted them and there's no trace of a phone call, this essentially tells LE that somebody in the family is likely involved.

IMO

just want to be very specific commenting on this following paragraph. Is there any question about the underlined???? I THOUGHT that LE had talked to the churchgoer.

Is this true, or not???? I thought we had learned that LE had talked to the churchgoer????

if Nancy didn't go in-person to church and if LE can't get a name from the family about who notified them, this is a red flag. Also, the cell phone of the family member contacted would show a call came in from somebody at church at the time they reported receiving the call.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Where is who based?

KOLD.

 

[Curiousraccoon]

just want to be very specific commenting on this following paragraph. Is there any question about the underlined???? I THOUGHT that LE had talked to the churchgoer.

Is this true, or not???? I thought we had learned that LE had talked to the churchgoer????

if Nancy didn't go in-person to church and if LE can't get a name from the family about who notified them, this is a red flag. Also, the cell phone of the family member contacted would show a call came in from somebody at church at the time they reported receiving the call.

We do not have any confirmed by LE information that the churchgoer has been identified or talked to or exists

 

[HoveringWombats]

KOLD.

KOLD is the local CBS affiliate in Tucson, AZ. They are owned by Gray Media, based in Atlanta, GA. Am I misunderstanding your question?

 

[Deepinthought52]

Looks like things have slowed down today. I imagine tomorrow might be a day of

With all due respect...if it isnt a kidnaping, where the hell is she? A kidnaping is the unlawful taking or confinement of a person. They havent found her in the house or in the neighborhood. Unless they think she wandered off....I just don't understand why people still think she wasnt kidnapped?

I’m thinking that she is not alive and possibly happened before body was removed. If so, that wouldn’t be kidnapping, but instead a different crime? Lots of open desert, close to border, mountains, etc. lots of tome passed before search started so if more than one person involved, which i believe, other person not being looked for or expected anywhere could assist with body transport. If there is a ransom note do they still call it kidnapping? Just some thoughts, not saying this happened, but possible. Imo

 

[tricia]

PLEASE, YOU MUST PROVIDE LINKS TO YOUR PICTURES.
I'M DYING HERE PEOPLE PLEASE

 

[investigatoroffacts]

KOLD.

KOLD news station is in Tucson. KOLD stock is Maryland I believe - Bloomberg