Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[mikeshanty]

Me either. The idea that someone would kidnap and/or kill a fragile 84 year old lady to keep her daughter from essentially taking a business trip just doesn't compute for me. I'm also struggling with the idea of it being at all political. In fact, if someone killed that poor lady for any sort of political reason, I may just be done with humanity in general.

Agreed. Without disrespecting GE's victims, I just cannot follow the theory on other platforms that this all relates to the files and the fact SG did interviews with some of the victims. I guess at a stretch I could get behind an idea of this being relates to the capture of Maduro if it was the relative of a politician or diplomat, but not the elderly mother of a morning show host.

 

[Bodhi]

Nice sleuthing! That is curious! IMO

I imagine reporters and social media bloggers would love to get a look at what's happening from a different perspective. It has to be extremely stressful for the neighbors. Their neighbor disappeared, apparently kidnapped from her home in the middle of the night. Their distress has to be compounded by media and wannabees looking for a scoop camped out right in front of their house and possibly traipsing through their side yard. They've lost their privacy and sense of security too.

 

[turaj]

I was thinking it was still something to do with this one. Nancy Guthrie disappearance; police investigate trespassing case

actually considering the number of reporters at all sites 24/7 I think the public or media may crack this case.

 

[Cassie P]

The news anchor who had read the second letter said that she would not classify the letter as another "ransom letter" so that would indicate no additional money had been requested.

Erin Burnett: And and just in terms of we understand that the initial one had obviously a very substantial ransom
demand and these two deadlines, right? One of which was last night uh and then another one of which which was far more consequential uh was Monday. Did any of that change in this one?

Mary Coleman (The news anchor who had seen the letters): I will say, you know, the FBI and PCSD were classifying the first as a ransom note. And I will say that I don't think that they will classify this second one as a ransom note. That's the best way I can characterize that.

and later:
Sure. Um, you know, there were deadlines in in the first letter. Uh, the second one, there are no deadlines. you know, in my head a ransom note is uh looking for something in return for something else and and this one is not necessarily
that.

3:44 mark

So if it was not a ransom note what was it? What did this message say?
Can we speculate?

 

[ivylambs]

I keep seeing this theory about the Winter Olympics. Honestly, I am just not getting it to be honest.

Agreed -- if you were trying to pull a Tonya Harding (because you're next in line to report on the Olympics in Italy and you want Savannah out of the way), you'd go for her kneecaps, so to speak... not murder her elderly mother.

 

[TheDinks]

So an attempt to protect TC from further speculation?

Avoiding to pinpoint who "exactly" since it was part of the investigation details that they didn't want specifically divulged. Not so much to protect him personally. I dunno... just my take on it... it seemed to be an intentional direction

 

[mikeshanty]

I've just watch Brian Entin's latest video. Seriously, that footage of the flashes taking place inside AG's darkened house are the most chilling clips I have seen in this whole case. Extremely eerie and ominous.

 

[Van Helsing]

The news anchor who had read the second letter said that she would not classify the letter as another "ransom letter" so that would indicate no additional money had been requested.

Erin Burnett: And and just in terms of we understand that the initial one had obviously a very substantial ransom
demand and these two deadlines, right? One of which was last night uh and then another one of which which was far more consequential uh was Monday. Did any of that change in this one?

Mary Coleman (The news anchor who had seen the letters): I will say, you know, the FBI and PCSD were classifying the first as a ransom note. And I will say that I don't think that they will classify this second one as a ransom note. That's the best way I can characterize that.

and later:
Sure. Um, you know, there were deadlines in in the first letter. Uh, the second one, there are no deadlines. you know, in my head a ransom note is uh looking for something in return for something else and and this one is not necessarily
that.

3:44 mark

I didn't think that news anchor's logic made any sense. I don't really care for some news anchor's opinion.

 

[birdbox]

Agreed -- if you were trying to pull a Tonya Harding (because you're next in line to report on the Olympics in Italy and you want Savannah out of the way), you'd go for her kneecaps, so to speak... not murder her elderly mother.

Honestly, if someone told me Tonya Harding was behind this crime, I wouldn't even be surprised at this point.

 

[InkyEvie]

Avoiding to pinpoint who "exactly" since it was part of the investigation details that they didn't want specifically divulged. Not so much to protect him personally. I dunno... just my take on it... it seemed to be an intentional direction

It's possible they also just hadn't checked all the boxes and felt confident enough to say one way or the other, especially given the attention to the case. IMO

 

[Cassie P]

right now she is just concerned with dealing with the captors and apparently paying to get her mother back home. I seriously doubt she is sorting anything out with employer or that a mother would be covered.

Are you saying that if her employer has kidnap insurance SG would not bother with it? The reason for asking is that this could be the reason for delaying the payment. IDK. Along with FBI verifying ransom note is legit.

 

[Pharmasgirl]

Anyone plan to attend Nancy’s church service online?

When is it??? Pls RSVP! Didn’t know they were doing one

 

[Gemmie]

So if it was not a ransom note what was it? What did this message say?
Can we speculate?

SG did say in their 2nd video "We received your message and we understand". I surmised upthread that that meant she found out her mother didn't make it without her meds the "we understand" part. (JMO)

Then she went on to say "We beg you now to return our mother to us so that we can celebrate with her. This is the only way we will have peace. This is very valuable to us, and we will pay.”

https://people.com/savannah-guthrie-tells-mothers-kidnappers-we-received-your-message-we-will-pay-11901810

 

[HanniBJeter]

because there's hundreds of people here all replying and having opinions.

How are hundreds of opinions about what

So is he

tsk tsk, not allowed

 

[maskedwoman]

fear went through me as well......
IF they are looking in wells with no gloves or masks.... are they just pretending to be working here?

One thing I'm confident of is that they are not pretending to be working this case.

 

[GatorFL]

I thought you were joking so had to look it up. Apparently it's a thing and called K&R insurance. I'm going to venture a guess that she does not have it. Who would think they needed it unless you're a VERY high profile individual who is known to have money out the wazoo.

Kidnap & ransom insurance is designed to help protect your organization from the financial impact of sudden and unexpected expenses related to kidnapping, extortion and ransom or illegal detention. Kidnap & ransom insurance policies provide coverage typically for monies paid to kidnappers or extortionists, loss of ransom in transit and other expenses incurred as a result of a kidnapping. 

These threats are very real and can happen to any business. Someone could have a grudge against you, your company or your employees. Someone could even try to force you to reveal company trade secrets. Even when no ransom money is paid, these stressful situations can create unexpected costs and have a significant impact on your business's bottom line. 

More at link: Kidnap & Ransom Insurance | Travelers Insurance.

I asked this because I know she travels for NBC. K&R coverage is a common for those who travel to certain places in the world. Would not be unreasonable for her to have this, IMO.

 

[simlyme]

We received your message and we understand. First words in Savanah's plea, especially , We understand.
Any idea what this could mean ? I've been wracking my brains on this !
What could anyone understand in all this ?
Anyone ?

 

[turaj]

Are you saying that if her employer has kidnap insurance SG would not bother with it?

no as with most insurance like that you pay and file a claim after. Of course she would do that but that takes time. They don't have time. In all honesty I think the $$ is the last thing on her mind.

 

[Gemmie]

I asked this because I know she travels for NBC. K&R coverage is a common for those who travel to certain places in the world. Would not be unreasonable for her to have this, IMO.

That makes even more sense. I was thinking she didn't have it as part of her own personal insurance.

 

[turaj]

We received your message and we understand. First words in Savanah's plea, especially , We understand.
Any idea what this could mean ? I've been wracking my brains on this !
What could anyone understand in all this ?
Anyone ?

everyone will have their own take on it. Personally I think it means that there was an additional message that informed them she is not alive.