AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[tkcrockett]

Was there sputum in it?I don’t think it was a spray,just droplets as if falling straight down.A bloody ,dripping nose would do this.I don’t think she stood there for long.Hit and carried or pulled inside as she was starting to re-enter.

zoom in on the picture you posted. some spray over to one side (I am no expert. Just looks different from other drops)

 

[Wsimm]

Just thinking if she was up (bathroom), heard a noise a the door - no knock - she may have opened it.

NG has been described as sharp as a tack. There’s no way I see NG opening that door after 10pm unless she absolutely knew who was on the other side.

 

[missy1974]

Just now, I took a photo of a televised CNN story on the Guthrie disappearance: This is my photo.

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Please note that there is no mention of the “11:00 am phone call from church member”

This is in the criminal complaint filed against fake hoaxer, filed on Thursday Feb 5th

https://www.justice.gov/usao-az/media/1426976/dl?inline

 

[Inthedetails]

My theory is the blood drops aren't from that night, and the perps entered via the garage or other door entrance through keypad. I've thought all along it was someone who was linked to NG via contract work such as housecleaner, handyman, etc.

I would go along with that except I find it really hard to believe NG wouldn't clean up blood from her front step, if it happened previously. She has a beautiful home and is a well-put-together woman. Most people would clean up bodily fluid outside their front door, imo. It's unsightly, at minimum.

Unless it happened as she was being picked up by Uber that night and it was just an "oops" injury that is coincidental to the crime. (I don't think so, but we don't know.)

Wish we knew what the Uber driver said about the ride and what door she emerged from.

Now that I think about it, do we know she Uber'd from her home or was she elsewhere??

jmo

 

[tkcrockett]

Where did you hear this? Do you have a link?

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I agree they appear to be passive blood drops as she stood at the front door area bleeding. There is what appears to me to be a projected/impact spatter to the right of the mat - meaning a force coming in to contact with an already actively bleeding source. Although, it is possible that it could be aspirated blood from a couch or sneeze while actively bleeding. Hopefully LE tested that area to determine if there was air/mucus mixed in with the blood. Poor Nancy.

Yesterday on her podcast, The Nerve, Maureen Callahan was discussing Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance with Ashleigh Banfield.

Maureen said she read that the blood drops on the porch had been tested and the blood came from Nancy. Also that there was sputum mixed with it, that suggested it had come from her mouth or nose (as opposed to a cut on her arm, say).

 

[tkcrockett]

Also, it might be the bleeding is more profuse due to medication she takes. I am just offering my opinion here based on past experience with elderly relatives and, more recently, with my husband: he nicked his finger while doing dishes and it looked like a crime scene. When we washed his hand, it was the slightest of cuts...I sent him to the doctor to follow-up; he needed a supplement to help with that.

It happens, but I am sure the CSI would have identified the age of the blood stains (and who wouldn't clean it up ASAP?) and possibly if it was due to a puncture or a slower bleed.

Opinions, all opinions.

but apparently there was sputum in the blood

 

[SaraSmile]

Just throwing this out there, maybe someone else was tipped off to go to N’s house when she was at AG’s to remove the cameras/damage floodlights etc. Then they meet there later to remove her from her house? I know a camera detected movement outside around 1:40am approximately, so that would mean another camera still was activated (not removed). What would be the reason to search the sewer tanks yesterday? When they searched the septic tank a day or so before that? Why wait and not check it out at the same time? I don’t know if this means anything or not? They brought the K9 back over the weekend, they must have a reason why they wanted to check out. Did they take the K9 to the backyard and inside the garage/house?

JMO
I think a deputy said they were checking sewer water flow to see what direction water was flowing. Maybe to find a body as it floats down the channel, corners, where to look next?

 

[soap mama]

Have they changed the deadline? The last I read it was still at 5pm today.

JMO

I have not seen any info that has changed in hat deadline. I am a nervous wreck. I wonder if the family has already paid since they have the bitcoin address.

 

[K9Enzo]

I think it's possible the real bad guy(s) who harmed NG did not (at all) anticipate the ransom extortion demands. On a much smaller scale this happens to families of missing people that got a little bit of news coverage. It's horrible. Perhaps at first it was somewhat of a relief, but now, it's got insane attention and naturally brought in investigators that they probably never even knew existed within the federal government looking at this. This case is first absolutely tragic, second, IMO, very interesting.

IMO

 

[Athos65]

Trying out this theory: NG arrives home and gets notification of a delivery. Yes, I know it's late but it's also around her birthday so maybe it seemed plausible to her. She opens the front door to retreive what she thinks is a gift/flowers, and is hit on the head.

Probably not likely but I'm trying to make sense of the front stoop scene.

jmo

If I am not mistaken, on the first video of the front porch, where the blood is visible, there is a small Amazon pouch tucked into the corner across from the door on the right side.

My recall might be faulty. Our cameras point at the person who comes to the door, and at their back so we can see if packages have been left where we've designated for drop off.

Opinions with a smattering of "is this fact? Please verify?"

 

[DS2021]

but apparently there was sputum in the blood

Please note that this is coming from an unofficial source so people don't keep repeating it as fact.

 

[soap mama]

NG has been described as sharp as a tack. There’s no way I see NG opening that door after 10pm unless she absolutely knew who was on the other side.

I have wondered if someone did fake AI voices of family members?

 

[ms-t]

Statistically, I just think it is a lot more likely that Nancy was either deliberately or accidentally killed by someone she knew rather than dying after being kidnapped by strangers. I also believe that the ransom plot bloomed out of her death, because they were desperate to send the investigation off looking for strangers and not at them. The ransom letter came much later than the experts think it should have, and I think that's the reason.

Who is them? Hopefully, we are going to find out sooner rather than later.

I agree completely. I believe that Nancy was killed (possibly accidentally) by someone she knew and I think the ransom note was sent to distract. It sounds like there are details in the ransom note that would only be known to someone who knew Nancy and her house.

I hope and pray there is an answer soon and peace for the family.

 

[LAborn]

I would go along with that except I find it really hard to believe NG wouldn't clean up blood from her front step, if it happened previously. She has a beautiful home and is a well-put-together woman. Most people would clean up bodily fluid outside their front door, imo. It's unsightly, at minimum.

Unless it happened as she was being picked up by Uber that night and it was just an "oops" injury that is coincidental to the crime. (I don't think so, but we don't know.)

Wish we knew what the Uber driver said about the ride and what door she emerged from.

Now that I think about it, do we know she Uber'd from her home or was she eslewhere??

jmo

She was on blood thinners so she might be accustomed to getting bumped and bleeding on the regular. She's old. I'm a lot younger and wouldn't bother to clean up something outside. Pretty sure she has help to tend the house, yard, pool. If it happened at night, she might hose it off in the daylight, but by then she was gone.

I'm assuming she Ubered from her house, but don't have proof.

 

[CSIDreamer]

This combined with no footprints in the blood. How?

Have we seen confirmation about the bar visit or is this rumor?

I'm not sure it even qualifies as rumor. In early pages someone was thinking out loud regarding IF TC was out of the house alone, he could say going to the bar. I think the intent was missed when someone read it. JMI

 

[Moonstrawbs]

I would go along with that except I find it really hard to believe NG wouldn't clean up blood from her front step, if it happened previously. She has a beautiful home and is a well-put-together woman. Most people would clean up bodily fluid outside their front door, imo. It's unsightly, at minimum.

Unless it happened as she was being picked up by Uber that night and it was just an "oops" injury that is coincidental to the crime. (I don't think so, but we don't know.)

Wish we knew what the Uber driver said about the ride and what door she emerged from.

Now that I think about it, do we know she Uber'd from her home or was she eslewhere??

jmo

This was my point, too. It just doesn't align with the standard of how the house was kept and what appears to be NG's lifestyle. I just don't believe the blood was from a previous incident. Jmo.

 

[Sadi]

There isn't one.

The thread got shut down a few times yesterday.

REALLY important to put IMO/JMO/MOO if it's an opinion and not something that can be backed up with a link. This thread has been fast moving and the amount of unneccessary posts has made it hard on mods to clean up.

Of course.. the above is JMO

I only brought it up because I read about it yesterday and don’t remember seeing it mentioned before, but wanted to know if it was true. Please disregard my previous post about it.

 

[Frig]

This is in the criminal complaint filed against fake hoaxer, filed on Thursday Feb 5th
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https://www.justice.gov/usao-az/media/1426976/dl?inline

Maybe just technically incorrect sloppy writing? It should probably say "the victim's family said a friend of N.G. contacted them on the morning of Feburary 1st to say..."

 

[jillybean51]

zoom in on the picture you posted. some spray over to one side (I am no expert. Just looks different from other drops)

Actually when zoomed in I think I see 2 more drops on the brick, one towards the corner above the base , the other higher up above the first drop?

 

[Starkville]

do we have a source for that? Not saying there isn't one, but I don't recall it.

I’m the one who posted about that. It’s not a verified fact.

Maureen Callahan mentioned it in her podcast *The Nerve*, talking to AB. She said that she had read that tests confirmed that the blood on the porch was NG’s, and that it contained sputum, as if it had come from a mouth or nose, as opposed from a cut on an arm, for example. This is not confirmed by any MSM source. I just mentioned it because no one else was talking about the blood on the porch, at that point.