AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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she could have literally been kidnapped at AG's house. all the stuff at NG's house is staging. mOO
 
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when Amazon. delivers that normally take a photo. Assume LE has gotten that.
I also get photos from other deliveries, like flowers on my birthday. In that case, it was a text message from the florist-shop driver, not from an "official" app like amazon. Could be faked, is what I'm saying.

Not saying it's a viable theory, just thinking aloud.

jmo
 
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I’m the one who posted about that. It’s not a verified fact.

Maureen Callahan mentioned it in her podcast *The Nerve*, talking to AB. She said that she had read that tests confirmed that the blood on the porch was NG’s, and that it contained sputum, as if it had come from a mouth or nose, as opposed from a cut on an arm, for example. This is not confirmed by any MSM source. I just mentioned it because no one else was talking about the blood on the porch, at that point.
Yeah I think it's questionable that she was given non-public info about sputum in the blood, even if she is an ex-LE officer. And even if she was given this info, why would she make it public? It was probably speculation. There has been a flood of speculation on this case!!
 
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If any of the family members were involved with fabricating the ransom note, how would any of them "slip away" from LE scrutiny to be able to send the second note (or post on the comment sections of an APP).. you would think they are being digitally watched by LE with hacking software.
 
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thank you for that
Just a thought: Intruders may have entered house from the back and carried her out the front door.
Did house have a safe?
 
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Yesterday on her podcast, The Nerve, Maureen Callahan was discussing Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance with Ashleigh Banfield.

Maureen said she read that the blood drops on the porch had been tested and the blood came from Nancy. Also that there was sputum mixed with it, that suggested it had come from her mouth or nose (as opposed to a cut on her arm, say).
The claim that there was sputum in the blood appears to be secondhand -- something that Maureen Callahan read. I don't think we know where she read it.

I gather that "sputum" means thick mucus from the lungs, which might be expected if NG had a nosebleed or was spitting blood out of her mouth. This is certainly possible, but we don't know it for sure.

Assuming she was bleeding from her nose or mouth, another question is why the pattern of the blood on the stoop implies that it went straight down, rather than splashing on NG's clothes first. It's possible that she was bent over. That could be for a variety of reasons: Maybe she normally bends over her cane. Maybe the kidnapper was holding her. Maybe she was doubled over in pain. As some have suggested, the bleed could've happened earlier, under some different circumstance.

JMO
 
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Maybe just technically incorrect sloppy writing? It should probably say "the victim's family said a friend of N.G. contacted them on the morning of Feburary 1st to say..."
Thank you so much for posting the document! IMO, JMO, MOO, whoever drafted this document was merely following the original timeline provided by PCSO. At the time of writing, likely it was the most current information, and trusted to be correct.

Ultimately, I don’t think, IMO, it has any bearing on the complaint itself, and doesn’t invalidate the complaint. I just don’t think, IMO, this document is proof that a churchgoer called the family. (We don’t have proof to the contrary, either!)
 
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If any of the family members were involved with fabricating the ransom note, how would any of them "slip away" from LE scrutiny to be able to send the second note (or post on the comment sections of an APP).. you would think they are being digitally watched by LE with hacking software.
IF the families involved there has to be others. Makes no sense to me otherwise. If there’s others involved it’s definitely premeditated.
 
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DBM
 
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Seems the sheriff has led us astray regarding the pacemaker and communications with the iphone or watch. After reading what many WSers have provided about their own pacemakers, it seems that the pacemaker will make an attempt to communicate with iphone/watch just one time per day to download data, it is not a constant monitoring situation.

Thus, the timing of the iphone message is not indicative of when she actually went missing.

All just my opinion after reading many WSer experiences.
 
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NG has been described as sharp as a tack. There’s no way I see NG opening that door after 10pm unless she absolutely knew who was on the other side.
What if she absolutely knew who was on the other side? (Just asking for argument’s sake.)
 
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Have they changed the deadline? The last I read it was still at 5pm today.

JMO
JMO
Not sure how investigators will handle, if deadline is missed. Maybe message on KOHN station. “please be patient, we are getting $”. I don’t think they need another family video RN.
 
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I have wondered if someone did fake AI voices of family members?
Oh, interesting.

And how would they know what the family members sound like?

Savannah’s voice would be easy because she was on TV every day. The others? Hmmm.
 
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JMO but I think the timeline issues/changes are due to the sheriff releasing some information initially before verifying it….like the call from the church person saying NG was not there.

As far as SG sending in that crypto payment for this Monday deadline….I don’t know if we will hear about it until way later.
 
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Oh, interesting.

And how would they know what the family members sound like?

Savannah’s voice would be easy because she was on TV every day. The others? Hmmm.
Her mom has appeared with Savannah on tv.

jmo
 

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