AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[RayVon]

thank you for that

Just a thought: Intruders may have entered house from the back and carried her out the front door.
Did house have a safe?

 

[LAhiker]

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Yesterday on her podcast, The Nerve, Maureen Callahan was discussing Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance with Ashleigh Banfield.

Maureen said she read that the blood drops on the porch had been tested and the blood came from Nancy. Also that there was sputum mixed with it, that suggested it had come from her mouth or nose (as opposed to a cut on her arm, say).

The claim that there was sputum in the blood appears to be secondhand -- something that Maureen Callahan read. I don't think we know where she read it.

I gather that "sputum" means thick mucus from the lungs, which might be expected if NG had a nosebleed or was spitting blood out of her mouth. This is certainly possible, but we don't know it for sure.

Assuming she was bleeding from her nose or mouth, another question is why the pattern of the blood on the stoop implies that it went straight down, rather than splashing on NG's clothes first. It's possible that she was bent over. That could be for a variety of reasons: Maybe she normally bends over her cane. Maybe the kidnapper was holding her. Maybe she was doubled over in pain. As some have suggested, the bleed could've happened earlier, under some different circumstance.

JMO

 

[SaraSmile]

This is in the criminal complaint filed against fake hoaxer, filed on Thursday Feb 5th
View attachment 642933

https://www.justice.gov/usao-az/media/1426976/dl?inline

JMO

AG setting up “alibi”, why she went to NG’s house, “ discovered” NG missing.
AG got caught in a lie, red flag for LE.

 

[Starkville]

Maybe just technically incorrect sloppy writing? It should probably say "the victim's family said a friend of N.G. contacted them on the morning of Feburary 1st to say..."

Thank you so much for posting the document! IMO, JMO, MOO, whoever drafted this document was merely following the original timeline provided by PCSO. At the time of writing, likely it was the most current information, and trusted to be correct.

Ultimately, I don’t think, IMO, it has any bearing on the complaint itself, and doesn’t invalidate the complaint. I just don’t think, IMO, this document is proof that a churchgoer called the family. (We don’t have proof to the contrary, either!)

 

[Wsimm]

If any of the family members were involved with fabricating the ransom note, how would any of them "slip away" from LE scrutiny to be able to send the second note (or post on the comment sections of an APP).. you would think they are being digitally watched by LE with hacking software.

IF the families involved there has to be others. Makes no sense to me otherwise. If there’s others involved it’s definitely premeditated.

 

[RayVon]

But what prompted AG to go to NGs house?

Maybe she regularly checks on her mom- especially if she is alone at night.

 

[SeattleStew]

DBM

 

[nodamselindistress]

Seems the sheriff has led us astray regarding the pacemaker and communications with the iphone or watch. After reading what many WSers have provided about their own pacemakers, it seems that the pacemaker will make an attempt to communicate with iphone/watch just one time per day to download data, it is not a constant monitoring situation.

Thus, the timing of the iphone message is not indicative of when she actually went missing.

All just my opinion after reading many WSer experiences.

 

[zecats]

Does anyone know whether the ransom deadline is EST or PST?

Likely Mountain Time, where AZ is located.

 

[Starkville]

NG has been described as sharp as a tack. There’s no way I see NG opening that door after 10pm unless she absolutely knew who was on the other side.

What if she absolutely knew who was on the other side? (Just asking for argument’s sake.)

 

[SaraSmile]

Have they changed the deadline? The last I read it was still at 5pm today.

JMO

JMO
Not sure how investigators will handle, if deadline is missed. Maybe message on KOHN station. “please be patient, we are getting $”. I don’t think they need another family video RN.

 

[Starkville]

I have wondered if someone did fake AI voices of family members?

Oh, interesting.

And how would they know what the family members sound like?

Savannah’s voice would be easy because she was on TV every day. The others? Hmmm.

 

[BUF]

JMO but I think the timeline issues/changes are due to the sheriff releasing some information initially before verifying it….like the call from the church person saying NG was not there.

As far as SG sending in that crypto payment for this Monday deadline….I don’t know if we will hear about it until way later.

 

[Inthedetails]

Oh, interesting.

And how would they know what the family members sound like?

Savannah’s voice would be easy because she was on TV every day. The others? Hmmm.

Her mom has appeared with Savannah on tv.

jmo

 

[turaj]

If any of the family members were involved with fabricating the ransom note, how would any of them "slip away" from LE scrutiny to be able to send the second note (or post on the comment sections of an APP).. you would think they are being digitally watched by LE with hacking software.

if BIL TC is involved there are others that actually were there that night. I have never thought he was the one himself to take her.I think she is either right in the immediate area or might be over the Mexican border. Border is tight but has gaps as outlined to BE by. a former border control person.

 

[AZLocal]

I’ve mentioned that I live in NG’s neighborhood. Several people here as well as folks I know who live close to main roads, even outside of this neighborhood, had LE visits over the weekend. They want footage from any cameras facing these main roads: Oracle road and 1st Ave are the two I can personally confirm.

 

[Inthedetails]

My doubts about the ransom notes are increasing.

 

[missy1974]

RE: SPUTUM IN THE BLOOD

I was able to find the posts from the last few days that said AB stated there was sputum in the blood and where she said it. This is NOT true ... she was asked if she knew if it had other evidence in the blood.. AB said NO, she just knew that it came back as NG.

Another great example of why it's important to provide links. IMO

 

[CSIDreamer]

Couple of thoughts:
1) I think the person responsible is close (family, neighbor, someone who works in the house). This would be irrationally random otherwise. NG isn't a celebrity - even if her daughter is. She isn't wealthy in the manner that usual targets for ransom are and she doesn't live a lifestyle where she's neccessarily exposed (she's not followed by papparazi or the media). There is clearly some knowledge of the house and the fact that there is no subscription for the cameras. Any halfway intelligent person would know that even destroying a camera uploading to the cloud will show everything up to the destruction of the camera - so I think destroying the camera was to avoid anyone watching live (NG? AG?)
2) The perp has a normal M-F 9-5 job. Saturday night / early Sunday seems to fit this AND 2nd note comes out Friday afternoon. Something tells me, based on the timeline - the perp has someone at home expecting them. The times loosely fit a night out: I tell my spouse I'm headed out with the boys. Bars close at 2am. Plausable to say we were kicked out at 2:15am. This would be a valid arrival home closer to 3am if I claim I'm going to a bar across town, stopped for gas, cigarettes, whatever.
3) Blood spatter on porch (as many have pointed out) appears to be aspirated at the doorstep and drops thereafter. The doorstep looks like a small step down or, at least, a threshold to step over - with NG's limited mobility, this step over/down might cause her respiratory exertion resulting in either coughing or heavy exhale through her nose. I think it was a nose bleed - the drops are round and mouth bleeds just don't seem like they fall that way. It looks like she was walking slow on the porch, the drops are close together.
4) I also believe the ransom notes are a distraction or a layer added to cover the real intent. I won't go so far as to say she's no longer alive. But something about the family theory seems to check the boxes. Let's say, hypothethically, you have three children. One is a TV personality on national TV, one is a poet married to a school teacher, and one is a retired Air Force pilot. Would one of them be in a position to feel not as financially secure or not as happy with their lot in life as compared to their siblings? Hypothetically, let's say someone at 10pm calls their spouse letting them know they just dropped off their mom at home safely - but now is headed to the bar in downtown Tucson to meet up with friends - after all, it's saturday night. Same person grabs a few drinks and then heads to NG house. They know the cameras aren't saving any recordings, but disconnects the doorbell cam because it would alert NG or even AG when the doorbell is rung or perhaps it can be turned on remotely by NG is she hears forced entry. Entry is made. No signs of a real struggle because you are known to the NG - until you assault her or she falls. You help her to your car (or a car). You may or may not have a 2nd person helping you - but you do have a place you keep her (is it a storage unit? a partner's place?) Either way, you realize quickly you ARE the prime suspect. You cannot leave your own house now without scrutiny or surviellence by police. You cannot provide proof of life because you simply cannot go to where you are holding her without being found out by LE. Your motive was money - maybe you did intend to kill her and sobered up and realized that was stupid. Maybe the ransom idea then becomes what you go with - which explains waiting so long to send a ransom note. The family records a message on Instagram because they know you'll watch that. References are made to Silence of the Lambs - perhaps because they know it's probably you and that's meaningful to you. You see your wife struggle because you were "out" that night and arrived oddly late. Your brother in law also suspects you and his demeanor is flat because he's talking to you and you know it. You sister in law is full of emotion because she lives in NYC and isn't part of the everyday of the family dynamics in AZ. LE knows it's you and that's why they really haven't done extensive searches with cadaver dogs, sought that TX equestrian group, or had volunteers walking the desert.
With all that said - it could also be someone close to the family following the same script. I just don't believe the excess stuff LE is doing is really progressing the case. I think it might be to gather evidence to make the case stronger - but I think they already know who did it and they are either waiting for him to go to her OR they are negotiating with him in the background while maintaining "no suspect" for the public.

Is this what launched the bar thing? It's obvious conjecture. JMO

 

[turaj]

Her mom has appeared with Savannah on tv.

jmo

Nancy was highly visible on SG's shows over the years. I remember some of those shows. REmember Dave Letterman used to feature his mother on his late night show? You can be sure no one will be doing this again in the future. Dave got. lucky this did not happen to him.