AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I’ve always been a bit perplexed as to why they stopped the search so quick. I understand that it’s likely they realized pretty quickly that something nefarious had happened and they didn’t have a simple wandering case going on. However, it seems that occasionally if someone is abducted and harmed, they will be found discarded somewhat close to the abduction site. I’m surprised they didn’t search more, just in case she was left close by. But then again, with the quick release of the house and coming back a few times, maybe I’m not surprised.
They used dogs, drones, helicopters, and ground searchers from multiple agencies. I think it appears to us that the search was quick because it took a while for this to even hit the news.
 
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True, but if it wasn't what else would it be? A cover up for something else?
The kidnapping is a cover up for her murder. The ransom either came after-the-fact or it was planned in advance to make it appear to be a kidnapping for ransom. More than 1 or 2 people working together. Money is the motive. It almost always is.

JMO
 
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Seems to me that if a family member were in dire financial straits, SG would not hesitate to help them out. JMO
Not necessarily. Family tension can be real and irrational.
 
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Her mom has appeared with Savannah on tv.

jmo
Right, but why would anyone fake Nancy’s voice to get her to open the door?

Or did you mean someone might fake it for another reason?
 
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An effort to misdirect by the person responsible, or some random opportunist trying to cash in on the situation.
I don't see anything in the profile of the SIL to indicate he was techno-savy enough. He has such a small profile online. Keep in mind almost all internet traffic goes through US-based servers and that the FBI will get warrants to follow the connections back, even if you use a VPN or an anonymizer. We learned this from Edward Snowden many years ago, I am sure the ability has only gotten better.

It isn't as easy to mask your ID online as people might think. In the US, all traffic is searchable eventually.
 
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And she could have been over the border before anyone knew she was missing.
yes many hours middle of the night.
 
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Many a person has done, in a flash of anger, something they later regret because its consequences are far more momentous than expected.

I am not saying that this is what happened, but a carelessly flung out arm while gesticulating could potentially cause a fall that turns fatal. Panic sets in, and unwise actions evolve from there.

Just a thought of how a seemingly harmless action, with no intent for causing injury or, worse yet, death, can escalate through pure dumb luck or poor judgment.

Sometimes people panic. They fear that whatever explanation they can offer of an event will not believed. Things grow from there. It happens to a much lesser degree in our everyday lives, and we all would love to firmly believe we wouldn't do the wrong thing instead of telling the truth, but you have to be in the situation to actually know what your actions are.

Opinion, pure and simple.

Very interesting.

Maybe NG said something that upset another family member and tempers flared and NG got pushed, etc.

Anyway, I am as lost as most of you as to what actually took place... but I am leaning towards the aforementioned family member's husband. Am thinking that they just don't have enough evidence to arrest.
 
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Not necessarily. Family tension can be real and irrational.
Exactly. Within my own family there are multi millionaires who say no to a destitute sibling.
 
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We don't know how NG's pacemaker was set up.

IMO LE was able to say when it disconnected because she most likely had a notification on her phone from her app that it had lost bluetooth connection at a specific time.
Correct, there is an iphone message and he surmised that is when she was taken from the home. What I was trying to say is that this does not mean what he thought it did; the pacemaker made a once daily attempt to DL info the iphone/watch but found it was disconnected when it attempted the DL. Those are 2 different things IMO.
 
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RE: SPUTUM IN THE BLOOD

I was able to find the posts from the last few days that said AB stated there was sputum in the blood and where she said it. This is NOT true ... she was asked if she knew if it had other evidence in the blood.. AB said NO, she just knew that it came back as NG.

Another great example of why it's important to provide links. IMO


Thank you for taking the time to research.
 
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An effort to misdirect by the person responsible, or some random opportunist trying to cash in on the situation.
I favor the former.
 
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I don't see anything in the profile of the SIL to indicate he was techno-savy enough. He has such a small profile online. Keep in mind almost all internet traffic goes through US-based servers and that the FBI will get warrants to follow the connections back, even if you use a VPN or an anonymizer. We learned this from Edward Snowden many years ago, I am sure the ability has only gotten better.
Plus they would have checked his devices, to include downloading his phone (maybe more than once).

So I think it’s unlikely he sent them.
 
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Offering my opinion. I do not put stock in anything published by the Hindustan Times. It's counterproductive for aggregators like Google News to features such outlets. I understand how outlets become favored. But the revenue gained promoting unreliable sites is offset by forcing users to wade through results to find fact-based reporting. It defeats the aggregator's utility.
 
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Seems the sheriff has led us astray regarding the pacemaker and communications with the iphone or watch. After reading what many WSers have provided about their own pacemakers, it seems that the pacemaker will make an attempt to communicate with iphone/watch just one time per day to download data, it is not a constant monitoring situation.

Thus, the timing of the iphone message is not indicative of when she actually went missing.

All just my opinion after reading many WSer experiences.

I'm in Canada, we also us $ but there is a HUGE difference in the value of the currency... believe me LOL

using specific currencies like USD is normal when talking in crypto IMO
Ok, that makes sense since other countries use $ as the money symbol
 
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watching the flow of the investigation

AG's Home
to
NG's Home

and the area in between.

mOO
The FBI is putting up billboards in Arizona and neighboring states as well.

That would be outside that area.
 
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I don't see anything in the profile of the SIL to indicate he was techno-savy enough. He has such a small profile online. Keep in mind almost all internet traffic goes through US-based servers and that the FBI will get warrants to follow the connections back, even if you use a VPN or an anonymizer. We learned this from Edward Snowden many years ago, I am sure the ability has only gotten better.
SIL if involved probably was the family connection with info on layout of home, info on NG and family assets....he was not the actual kidnapper. Probably at least three involved.
 
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I want to believe if family involved they would be on their trail by now. I don’t believe that is the case. I totally believe ransom notes from kidnappers because they waited until they had her far enough away and nobody on their trail. And they are sophisticated enough that they are able to get ransom notes done without leaving a digital footprint.
 
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Is this what launched the bar thing? It's obvious conjecture. JMO
The bar example I used and that I included in my theory is absolute conjecture - based on the timeline and the locations of AG and NG residences - mostly
 
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IMO, they are not paying a dime unless they have solid unquestionable proof that Nancy is alive.
I'm not sure about that. That would be LE and government perspective to discourage future abductions, but as family, it might be worth the risk to pay it, especially if they have a lot of money.
 

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