AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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We don't know how NG's pacemaker was set up.

IMO LE was able to say when it disconnected because she most likely had a notification on her phone from her app that it had lost bluetooth connection at a specific time.
Correct, there is an iphone message and he surmised that is when she was taken from the home. What I was trying to say is that this does not mean what he thought it did; the pacemaker made a once daily attempt to DL info the iphone/watch but found it was disconnected when it attempted the DL. Those are 2 different things IMO.
 
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RE: SPUTUM IN THE BLOOD

I was able to find the posts from the last few days that said AB stated there was sputum in the blood and where she said it. This is NOT true ... she was asked if she knew if it had other evidence in the blood.. AB said NO, she just knew that it came back as NG.

Another great example of why it's important to provide links. IMO


Thank you for taking the time to research.
 
  • #14,323
An effort to misdirect by the person responsible, or some random opportunist trying to cash in on the situation.
I favor the former.
 
  • #14,324
I don't see anything in the profile of the SIL to indicate he was techno-savy enough. He has such a small profile online. Keep in mind almost all internet traffic goes through US-based servers and that the FBI will get warrants to follow the connections back, even if you use a VPN or an anonymizer. We learned this from Edward Snowden many years ago, I am sure the ability has only gotten better.
Plus they would have checked his devices, to include downloading his phone (maybe more than once).

So I think it’s unlikely he sent them.
 
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Offering my opinion. I do not put stock in anything published by the Hindustan Times. It's counterproductive for aggregators like Google News to features such outlets. I understand how outlets become favored. But the revenue gained promoting unreliable sites is offset by forcing users to wade through results to find fact-based reporting. It defeats the aggregator's utility.
 
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Seems the sheriff has led us astray regarding the pacemaker and communications with the iphone or watch. After reading what many WSers have provided about their own pacemakers, it seems that the pacemaker will make an attempt to communicate with iphone/watch just one time per day to download data, it is not a constant monitoring situation.

Thus, the timing of the iphone message is not indicative of when she actually went missing.

All just my opinion after reading many WSer experiences.

I'm in Canada, we also us $ but there is a HUGE difference in the value of the currency... believe me LOL

using specific currencies like USD is normal when talking in crypto IMO
Ok, that makes sense since other countries use $ as the money symbol
 
  • #14,327
watching the flow of the investigation

AG's Home
to
NG's Home

and the area in between.

mOO
The FBI is putting up billboards in Arizona and neighboring states as well.

That would be outside that area.
 
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I don't see anything in the profile of the SIL to indicate he was techno-savy enough. He has such a small profile online. Keep in mind almost all internet traffic goes through US-based servers and that the FBI will get warrants to follow the connections back, even if you use a VPN or an anonymizer. We learned this from Edward Snowden many years ago, I am sure the ability has only gotten better.
SIL if involved probably was the family connection with info on layout of home, info on NG and family assets....he was not the actual kidnapper. Probably at least three involved.
 
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I want to believe if family involved they would be on their trail by now. I don’t believe that is the case. I totally believe ransom notes from kidnappers because they waited until they had her far enough away and nobody on their trail. And they are sophisticated enough that they are able to get ransom notes done without leaving a digital footprint.
 
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Is this what launched the bar thing? It's obvious conjecture. JMO
The bar example I used and that I included in my theory is absolute conjecture - based on the timeline and the locations of AG and NG residences - mostly
 
  • #14,331
IMO, they are not paying a dime unless they have solid unquestionable proof that Nancy is alive.
I'm not sure about that. That would be LE and government perspective to discourage future abductions, but as family, it might be worth the risk to pay it, especially if they have a lot of money.
 
  • #14,332
Seems to me that if a family member were in dire financial straits, SG would not hesitate to help them out. JMO
That depends on how much SG has helped them out financially in the past. There comes a time when enough is enough.

JMO
 
  • #14,333
Am I imaging things, or was there a video of AG reading some of her poetry?
 
  • #14,334
the whole ransom demand (multiples) thing has always felt off to me, like a red herring. Opportunistic individuals jumping on a hot case involving a "rich" family member's missing parent. But I have been loath to suggest a family member is responsible or that NG is dead.

With recent searches seeming to suggest LE is interested in AG's home, NG's home, and the space between I am forced to examine the possibility that NG may not have made it home at all that night and whatever happened at her home later was all staged to suggest she had. Hard to know if that theory holds any water though because without knowing where in the home cameras would be focused, the whereabouts of AG household members at later times in the night etc. MOO not a lot to grab onto to even form a theory.
 
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I'm not suggesting NG ran inside to leave her phone, but that someone else did. And put it in a unexpected location for the "ransom note writer" to know, to prove he was the abductor.

jmo
Now, before I go off to be my very adult self doing very responsible and necessary things, I will propose this: many advice blogs, magazines (AARP comes to mind) and "pundits for the elderly" give abundant advice on where to leave keys, wallet, phone, etc. so as not to "lose" or "forget" them. It is drummed into us that the best place is "always the same place". (This, however, has not stopped me from leaving the timer I've set for some task in the catastrophically wrong place...analog timers defrost better than digital ones, for the record.)

Anyone who has any experience of older people knows that we must guide our lives by routines that help us to remain independent. The likelihood that she has a specific place assigned for her phone is quite high, and it cannot be discounted that a repairman, cleaner, etc. would be able to notice this at first glance.

(Word of advice, when you are expecting someone to be working in your home for a long time, whether it's several hours one day, or several days/weeks, move the things that can give them intimate knowledge of your habits.)

All this, except for the advice, is opinion.

I have to go make some banana bread now...will peek in later. Lord knows what this brain of mine will do while chopping and mixing and mashing.
 
  • #14,336
I thin
Another thing in support of this is would the POTUS really get involved if this solely appeared to be a garden variety homicide with disposal of a body?
Its a high profile case. That tends to draw attention from those who normally would not speak on that type of situation
 
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Back online after 12 hours off...

Is FBI Director expected to make a statement today? I heard he is visiting Tucson today as part of the pre-planned visit.
 
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I would be more inclined to say Russia than the cartel. I just personally can’t see the cartel operating this way but I have no problem seeing Russia operating this way.
Russia gets the blame for much of what our own three letter agencies are doing. The cartels are powerful.
But then I have no idea where Mrs Guthrie is. I just pray she is safe and well.
 
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The bar example I used and that I included in my theory is absolute conjecture - based on the timeline and the locations of AG and NG residences - mostly
Oh, I personally understood that. :)
 
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Back online after 12 hours off...

Is FBI Director expected to make a statement today? I heard he is visiting Tucson today as part of the pre-planned visit.
He makes a lot of statements doesn’t he??
 

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