AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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What does the ransom deadline tonight have to do with announcing an arrest or anything though? Tbh I don't really get the significance of the deadline, maybe why Brian Entin doesn't know the exact time either *shrug*

EDIT: I'm also not sure I understand the significance, if any, of the next scheduled press conference until Thursday.

Sorry if I'm being thick! I just am viewing through the lens of LE wanting to find NG asap and make an arrest asap.
I believe the Sheriff wanted Media to know that LE wasn't available to discuss this case this week and to give everybody a heads-up that LE will have nothing to share concerning this case until Thursday, unless there is some startling development (my words).

At this point, it seems that LE may believe or know that NG isn't alive. With some of their evidence collecting at AG's house and possibly NG's house, they are waiting for the results of their forensic work. The Sheriff may be thinking that they'll have their evidence in place on Thursday and can announce something then. Just a possible scenario. JMO, too.
 
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Interesting - does the article indicate whether AG is also there, or just SG? My experience of the DailyMail as someone based in the country in which it operates is that they often imply things they cannot legally report. It seems odd they would report on SG's whereabouts, unless they are also implying something about SG being alone?

It says Savannah and her siblings, and makes no mention of TC.

Who knows the real situation though?
 
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I could still see it being someone who is obsessed with/wants attention from/wants to hurt or inflict pain on SG. They are local to Tucson and can't reach SG in New York, so they decide to target her family. Maybe they've been stalking both her sister and her mother for a while now. They pick last weekend ahead of SG leaving for Italy and abduct NG.

Sending ransom notes to TMZ ensures maximum publicity of SG's pain. If they really wanted money, they would've contacted her privately and told her not to involve LE. But the way they went about it (TMZ and two local stations) feels like the person wants attention that they can watch on TV and they also want SG to make videos pleading for them to let NG go. It's not really about money--its about spectacle and control and inflicting pain on a person they've become fixated on (the reason could be quasi-political, romantic, or some kind of delusion we couldn't guess).

A lot of former LE seem to thinks so. The "Ransom" part certainly can be, as it can be just that separated from another crime that rendered NG missing.

Many FBI agents have commented on the public nature (one NYPD det. even said "they sent the ransom note to freakin' TMZ first!") and say that's exactly what is going on here. If your goal is money in a kidnapping, you want fast and quiet, not putting heat on yourself going public and holding a hostage for a long time. The "kidnapping" is very atypical in many ways and many former FBI agents have commented on that. So yes, that seems to be a big driving component here.
 
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Very interesting timing for a very different format of video? No longer in negotiation format? Literally two hours before the deadline?
 
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Could it also be they already found her body, but are stringing the ransom writer along to see if they can trap and catch him with continued letters? I understand why the family would want privacy and to get away and be together and grieve together in another home at this tragic time.
Could well be. Also they could have found her body but aren't announcing it because they are still gathering evidence and waiting for forensic results.
 
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I really hope at the next press conference, some reporter asks the sheriff to clarify if someone actually noticed Nancy not at church, either in person or online, if they called the family to notify them, at what time, and did the police interview that person. Otherwise this question is going to keep circulating non-stop with speculation, trying to fill in gaps, and no straight answer. It doesn't seem like it should be all that secretive. The sheriff mentioned it on his own at the very first press conference like it was no big deal. If he suddenly gets tight lipped, either something changed or he didn't have all his facts right the first time and now they're just keeping everything close to the vest.
I think one of the reasons the Sheriff has not clarified the church statement is because I think he may have misspoke about it, just like he misspoke about someone taking Nancy from her bed.

It could be that AG tried to contact her mom, couldnt and contacted a friend of NGs, and the friend said "I didn't see her in church today". And then AG calls the cops and mentions her mom wasn't in church and is missing.
 
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The NYT doesn't fact check the way they used to. Just my own experience.
Sounds like it's taken from the initial presser.
Time will tell all.

Well, can't blame them for reporting what the local Sheriff said at a press event!

BUT the Sheriff was possibly going by what he was told by relatives. And maybe there was no further verification.


Another source:


The Sheriff said someone who attends church with NG called because she never made it to services.

Approximately 11 a.m.: Someone who attends church with Nancy Guthrie called the family to report that the 84-year-old never made it to services, the sheriff said.

 
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The Daily Mail has decided to semi-expose where Savannah and her siblings are allegedly staying. It's a $1.2 million mansion in the Catalina Foothills area of Tucson. It sits in an exclusive gated neighborhood with a guardhouse. They have been there for several days.

Behind a paywall, but those are the pertinent details.


All of them staying together, if true, is either a sign that one (or two) of those folks that some suspect are involved aren't involved at all, or they are rabidly malignant human beings. Odds are the former.

JMO.
 
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I have a question—why would the people wanting the ransom tell the Sibs that NG was no longer alive? And still demand the ransom. I’d think by admitting that she’s deceased that the ransomer just slammed shut any hope of getting a ransom. Now I heard SGs reply that they will pay for a body - is essentially what she said. I just think admitting she’s no longer alive would decrease your chance of getting any money. That’s just my thought anyway
 
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Imo they have never been conducting a search and rescue. The sheriff all but admitted that in the first press conference a week ago.
Right, didn't they call in homicide on day one?
 
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From the clip: Brian and other reporters haven't been able to find a warrant for the searches that took place at AG's house.
And just like that now I’m thinking maybe it wasn’t a family member like SIL 🤷‍♀️. Even those with prior FBI/LE experience said they’ve never seen a case like this.
 
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Ok wow... I don't even know what to say about that video. They think NG is still alive?!

I'm also wondering about the choice to have SG post this video given what we were just discussing about attention seeking/the perp(s) trying to hurt SG.... [Edit: Wouldn't this prolong the "hunt", or are they giving the perps what they think they want? Wouldn't they want to see SG more devastated then? Sorry that is quite dark I know.]
 
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And why the sudden appeal to the public a week later? I know she will be under enormous stress, but something in her tone and approach seems a little more upbeat in this latest video?
 
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Listening to SG's new video, it doesn't sound like LE is close to solving this.
 
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Well, can't blame them for reporting what the local Sheriff said at a press event!

BUT the Sheriff was possibly going by what he was told by relatives. And maybe there was no further verification.


Another source:


The Sheriff said someone who attends church with NG called because she never made it to services.

Approximately 11 a.m.: Someone who attends church with Nancy Guthrie called the family to report that the 84-year-old never made it to services, the sheriff said.

Thanks 👍.
Yes, the Sheriff took it as gospel. But since then, certain parties may have rethought it!
JMO
 
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Savannah was remarkably composed there, and still optimistic that her mom is alive.
 

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