AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Simply Southern]

Savanna said, “we will pay”. I don’t think she would lie.

What if ….they have already paid the ransom and she’s not been released. Savanna is asking for help looking for her.

Moo …

 

[mikeshanty]

Transcript:

"Hi there everybody. Um, I wanted to come on and just share a few thoughts as we enter into another week of this nightmare. Um, I just want to say first of all thank you so much for all of the prayers and the love that we have felt, my sister and brother and I. And that our mom has felt. Because we believe that somehow, some way she is feeling these prayers and that God is lifting her even in this moment and in this darkest place.

We believe our mom is still out there. We need your help. Law enforcement is working tirelessly, around the clock, trying to bring her home, trying to find her. She was taken and we don't know where. And we need your help. So I'm coming on just to ask you not just for your prayers but no matter where you are, even if you're far from Tucson, if you see anything, if you hear anything, if there's anything at all that seems strange to you, that you report to law enforcement. We are at an hour of desperation. And we need your help."

Google the bold terms + "movie" - the results will shock you

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020967285255700522

 

[Wsimm]

It's very possible. A significant surge of energy can come from having made a major decision like that, it's done, and people can experience relief and have renewed energy. I think we see that in Savannah today. Make-up on, head held high, energy to continue the fight to find her mom.

But they don’t have NG back! Do we have confirmation that the bitcoin has been funded? I totally understand SG’s message and feel tremendously for her and the family, but I wouldn’t send a message out, seeking information about the abductor if I still had hope. I have to guess they’ve chosen not to send the ransom.

 

[KellySleuth]

Savanna said, “we will pay”. I don’t think she would lie.

What if ….they have already paid the ransom and she’s not been released. Savanna is asking for help looking for her.

Moo …

Or...between the time she said "we will pay" and the actual payment being made, it was determined that this ransom demand was a hoax.

 

[wibbleflea]

Savanna said, “we will pay”. I don’t think she would lie.

What if ….they have already paid the ransom and she’s not been released. Savanna is asking for help looking for her.

Moo …

If they've paid to the Bitcoin wallet address given in the ransom note, we'd know all about it. TMZ and at least two other stations have the wallet address. Bitcoin transactions are public.

 

[mikeshanty]

Savanna said, “we will pay”. I don’t think she would lie.

What if ….they have already paid the ransom and she’s not been released. Savanna is asking for help looking for her.

Moo …

Maybe she was calling their bluff and they received no further contact. And this appeal to the public is one last chance to make contact with the perp?

 

[Derdew]

Very interesting take on this

 

[Ellis' Mom]

Oh, dear me, an aside...another Vera Stanhope! I see you've had her long er than I've been here, and if you feel I should back out of the Vera Stanhope-ness, I will gladly do so. My apologies, I'd not seen yours.

I don't think you should be too concerned since it appears that your profile pic is of Hetty Wainthropp rather than Vera Stanhope. Am I right?

 

[PacoElFlaco]

Google the bold terms + "movie" - the results will shock you

Annie is the writer of the family and she and Tomasso seem to have a somewhat gothic, darkwave esthetic to their music and poetry. Annie is probably writing the family speeches and peppering them with references to relevant dark crime movies.

 

[Inthedetails]

It would seem that if the family felt confident about paying the ransom before today's "5pm deadline", they would lay low and hope an exchange would be made. The fact that SG is on instagram, hours before, begging the public for help, seems like it could "piss off" the supposed kidnappers and make the deal go bad. LE probably would not recommend it. Which makes me fear...they have nothing. Or they now think the ransom letters were a hoax. It just alarms me that if they really were hoping to appease a kidnapper's demand here, they wouldn't encourage the public hours before to look for something, see something, say something. (Because that's not just saying "if you see Nancy" - it's saying be on the lookout for a culprit who can be identified.)

Or it might prompt the kidnapper to communicate with them.


jmo

 

[Simply Southern]

Or...between the time she said "we will pay" and the actual payment being made, it was determined that this ransom demand was a hoax.

Another possibility.

I felt they would pay the ransom right after the last video. Why wait, time is not on the side of NG.
Moo

 

[MesquiteO21]

Didn't the Ramsay case "ransom note" also have all kinds of movie references, like to Dirty Harry and other crime films?

Yes it did.

“Don’t grow a brain” is very similar to “do not attempt to grow a brain” from Speed which was released the year prior in 1995.

There are some other lines either verbatim or extremely close to various movies

moo

 

[Bodhi]

Ugh why do they have to try and 'glamorize everything'??

"Desert Hideaway"

Presumably it's close to Nancy's and therefore very convenient but also it WAS private. What did they do, follow her back there?!

Maybe the ransom note writer works for the flippin Daily Mail!

Ugh why do they have to try and 'glamorize everything'??

"Desert Hideaway"

Presumably it's close to Nancy's and therefore very convenient but also it WAS private. What did they do, follow her back there?!

Maybe the ransom note writer works for the flippin Daily Mail!

Screw the Daily Mail and TMZ. Have they no decency?

SG and her siblings relocated for security and privacy. The culprits who kidnapped and possibly murdered their mother are still at large. By revealing their location, the Daily Mail is jeopardizing the safety and privacy of traumatized victims in their most desparate hour.

Just as with TMZ's reporting publicly in real time whether it sees ransom being paid in a restricted transaction in the hours leading up to the kidnapper's final deadline. Outrageous. Unethical.

I hope the @tricia considers banning the Daily Mail and TMZ as sources for jeopardizing the return of an 84-year-old victim to her family, endangering the security of her family, and intruding on the privacy of crime victims. It goes against the victim-friendly standards that WS holds dear.

 

[Sadi]

The only way I see that confidence is if they have a very good idea of who the perpetrator is and it’s someone in NG’s circle (in other words, it wasn’t random)

Or…maybe they aren’t confident? Idk.

Remember the chief in the Idaho 4 case didn’t think there was a threat yet we know now it was a random stranger crime. There absolutely was a threat to the community at the time he said that.

moo

Good point, Sheriff wasn’t sure how to respond when asked at the press conference if there was a threat to the public since no one has been arrested. Add to that, no more requests for tips from the public and any descriptions of anything people should be looking for etc.? It’s too quiet. Do they have a suspect in their sight?

 

[Simply Southern]

Annie is the writer of the family and she and Tomasso seem to have a somewhat gothic, darkwave esthetic to their music and poetry. Annie is probably writing the family speeches and peppering them with references to relevant dark crime movies.

Savanna has a BS in Journalism and a law degree. I feel Savanna is writing her own message. Moo

 

[Chrissymick]

Feds have the death penalty if the victim is killed as a result of the kidnapping, and the feds can charge if the crime crosses state lines.

Also, a US state would extradite a defendant to another state to face state charges even if the death penalty was on the table. The person would have to flee to a country that would refuse to extradite unless the death penalty was taken off the table. Fleeing the jurisdiction to escape the death penalty is not easy or certain work.

 

[Cipher Vale]

Just Googled as I'm Canadian... AZ has the death penalty and possibly for kidnapping resulting in death sounds like.

Do they think the perp skipped state to avoid that if getting caught? I guess they could still get brought back to AZ for trial?

Crime happened in AZ. They will be tried, convicted, and punished in AZ according to AZ law.

 

[Napoli]

Agreed. But WHY? What changed?

This reminds me of John Hinckley and Jodi Foster. Hear me out. Hincklley was enamored of Jodi. He shot at Reagan to prove his love for Jodi and gain her attention. Someone has an obsessuin with SG. The LE might have read through her various accounts like Instagram and noted a reoccurring set of posts with the same name over the months. IN SOME INSANE WAY, this person is trying to get SG's attention. I thought SG looked sad and almost guilty...like she was somehow the cause. She clearly is no longer appealing to the perp and not giving him what he wants...ATTENTION. jmo and BTW the reason she put all her appeals on INSTAGRAM may have been at the stalker's direction...HE GOT HER TO NOTICE HIM! MOO

 

[Athos65]

I don't think you should be too concerned since it appears that your profile pic is of Hetty Wainthropp rather than Vera Stanhope. Am I right?

I switched it because I did not want to cause confusion. THE Vera Stanhope had the grace to respond kindly via private message. I tried to make sure I stayed "age appropriate" in my next selection...this will make it harder to pick an alternate if there's another Hetty because I seem to have seen at least two Jessica Fletchers...