AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Simply Southern]

If they've paid to the Bitcoin wallet address given in the ransom note, we'd know all about it. TMZ and at least two other stations have the wallet address. Bitcoin transactions are public.

I believe they would use a new account number since the media has so openly discussed the letter.

The last contact was to only ONE station and they have remained quite. Moo

 

[abanddb123]

If someone's post is too long for your preference, just skip it. Simple solution.

Really, what if it's important. I don't want to be one of those that don't read

 

[ArabianLover]

I fear this case has been botched from the get go.

The State Police should have been brought in IMMEDIATELY to help with this case. This tiny agency is not equipped.

Both Nancy’s AND Annie’s properties should have been sealed off as crime scenes. NO MATTER WHAT. Those were the last supposed places Nancy was seen alive. All vehicles should have been seized.

Then ALL the family members should have been dragged down to the police station and DRILLED. Questioned. Proved their timeline by providing corroborating evidence. Taken polygraphs, etc.

All electronic devices should have been seized.

All vehicles should have been seized.

And should have been done for purposes of elimination. Eliminate the family first. Then work out.

This is LE 101

These “statements” about driving Nancy home, at what time, by whom, and what exactly happened at the drop off don’t make any sense. Was it just the SIL? Was it Annie & the SIL? How does an 85yo woman with SERIOUS physical limitations get into her garage in 2 minutes? There should be history on that remote opener to show the average time it takes her. 2 minutes just seems way too short.

Crime scene experts should have gone over BOTH properties with a fine toothed comb. As well as all vehicles. These were places that Nancy was confirmed to be.

That first critical 48hr window has been lost here because of sloppy police work. And the delay of reporting Nancy’s disappearance.

We are now into the 2nd week and they are just now checking Annie’s house with Luminol. After the family has continued living there? And possibly doing a clean up??

They just discovered there was a camera on the roof of Nancy’s house. What else did they miss?

We have a supposed ransom demand that has not been confirmed legitimate.

My questions are these:

1. Why haven’t the family members been eliminated as suspects?

2. Why can’t they confirm the legitimacy of this ransom demand?

3. Why do they keep going back and doing basic things that should have been done on day 1 or day 2?

4. And WHY would the Sheriff go to a basketball game with a case like this going on so early in an investigation? Normally a case is worked by all involved without sleep for days. They’re not going to events. This is a very bad look.

This is heading for a catastrophic conclusion. In more ways than one.

 

[KellySleuth]

Another possibility.

I felt they would pay the ransom right after the last video. Why wait, time is not on the side of NG.
Moo

Good point. I hadn't considered that they may have paid right away.

 

[stmichael]

If Nancy didn't have her medication for 9 days would she even still be alive now?

We're not sure what the meds were for but it's not a good prognosis. I believe she had high blood pressure along with her cardiac issues, so that may be what the meds were for. Now that setting in, along with the extreme stress of the situation, and any damage (blood spatter found) is a horrible situation for someone cardio-compromised, especially at that age.

If the ransom angle is real, we also don't know the care she's been getting. As one expert LE analyst pointed out, she's a horrible target for a ransom (fragile goods, if you excuse the phrasing) given these things, and with such media attention/heat you'd want to move this as quickly as possible. IF this is a ransom this isn't some smooth efficient operation, but many are dubious if that's whats going on here.

 

[shonyakay]

Who here thinks Savannah did this latest Instagram message on her own - without LE's input?

 

[Walela]

This makes sense.

She could be dropped off at a rest area, a gas station, a hospital - any number of places. I suppose anywhere they've determined isn't monitored by a camera. Even by the side of the road.

Why drop her off anywhere? Why not leave her where she is and then use the email tip line to give the location coordinates. Some seem to think this person is a local and is in the Tucson area and if so, no one has located them yet so just drive away while everyone else waits the mythical 10 hours for them to "return" to Tuscon.
moo

 

[HoveringWombats]

I believe they would use a new account number since the media has so openly discussed the letter.

If they intentionally sent the letter to TMZ, surely they would not be surprised (and, in fact, are probably pleased) that it was openly discussed. I doubt this would cause them to change tactics. MOO

 

[birdbox]

Yes I understand that part of it - it just seems crazy to me that anyone can access the wallet to see how much is in there. I thought it would be like a bank account where you have to enter your password to see your balance.

You can just see that a deposit or withdrawal has been made and people can send money to it, but they cant take it out. Kind of like at your bank i could go deposit 1000 to your account if I knew your bank account number but I can't take it out. The only difference in crypto you can see balances in the wallets, but not owner. And then it has to be moved around to other currencies to hide it and then to cash it out, etc and some countries have very sketchy laws. Its quite bizarre and why its a fan favorite of all things illegal now including how terrorist cells move money.

 

[dogmom805]

Who here thinks Savannah did this latest Instagram message on her own - without LE's input?

I think LE is either not being forthcoming, or just doesn't have any information to give (investigation leading to dead ends), and there is frustration on SG's part.

 

[Bodhi]

Really dumb question here: is the alleged 2nd deadline at 5pm eastern or 5pm local? If 5pm local, that would 7 eastern

Messages did not specify a time zone. Assumed to be Mountain Standard Time. Arizona does not follow daylight savings time. So currently, MST is 2 hours is -2 hours from EST. For the other half of the year, the difference is 3 hours.

 

[Vegasgrl]

Maybe Savannah is thinking abductor will drop off her mom in another state and wants people in all of the states to be on the lookout for her mom.

The billboards go Texas, all the way to Houston. Posted yesterday with link/ source. Btw, could someone tell me how to search within a thread?

 

[stmichael]

Screw the Daily Mail and TMZ. Have they no decency?

SG and her siblings relocated for security and privacy. The culprits who kidnapped and possibly murdered their mother are still at large. By revealing their location, the Daily Mail is jeopardizing the safety and privacy of traumatized victims in their most desparate hour.

Just as with TMZ's reporting publicly in real time whether it sees ransom being paid in a restricted transaction in the hours leading up to the kidnapper's final deadline. Outrageous. Unethical.

I hope the @tricia considers banning the Daily Mail and TMZ as sources for jeopardizing the return of an 84-year-old victim to her family, endangering the security of her family, and intruding on the privacy of crime victims. It goes against the victim-friendly standards that WS holds dear.

Alas, it seems the "ransomers" wanted this public disclosure and pain.

As one detective said "they sent the ransom note first to freakin' TMZ". They wanted this to play out in the public, still could be an opportunistic sicko/stalker and unrelated to the real disappearance of NG.

 

[birdbox]

The fact that law enforcement hasn't tracked the IP address says they are behind a complex setup of multiple vpns spanning multiple countries. Some countries will not give you access to the hop data. Networking in an international realm is quite complex. No standard laws rules.

 

[Wsimm]

Good point, Sheriff wasn’t sure how to respond when asked at the press conference if there was a threat to the public since no one has been arrested. Add to that, no more requests for tips from the public and any descriptions of anything people should be looking for etc.? It’s too quiet. Do they have a suspect in their sight?

Suspect in sight and someone else unknown?

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

I’m hearing some of these talking heads, former LE guys say it might have been a robbery and something went wrong.

Why would the robbers take NG from the house? That seems odd. If it’s a murder for the sake of inheritance, why take NG out of the house to do something that they could have done inside the house and leave her in the home?

 

[Ellis' Mom]

I switched it because I did not want to cause confusion. THE Vera Stanhope had the grace to respond kindly via private message. I tried to make sure I stayed "age appropriate" in my next selection...this will make it harder to pick an alternate if there's another Hetty because I seem to have seen at least two Jessica Fletchers...

Ah--how nice of you! I'm sure I've seen multiple Veras over time. I love Hetty so I applaud your choice!

 

[Inthedetails]

Just Googled as I'm Canadian... AZ has the death penalty and possibly for kidnapping resulting in death sounds like.

Do they think the perp skipped state to avoid that if getting caught? I guess they could still get brought back to AZ for trial?

Crossing the border to another state would make the case worse. imo

jmo

 

[Derdew]

Google the bold terms + "movie" - the results will shock you

I’m not getting anything

 

[Walela]

The fact that law enforcement hasn't tracked the IP address says they are behind a complex setup of multiple vpns spanning multiple countries. Some countries will not give you access to the hop data. Networking in an international realm is quite complex. No standard laws rules.

I'm sorry, could you explain your answer as it relates to my post? Thanks