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If they declare them suspects before a body, they can mess it up. Its a process and you want a conviction in the end.
Suspects in a kidnapping. Charges can be upgraded later.
 
  • #15,982
She didn’t want to drive to her daughter’s house and took Uber instead?
Maybe she has issues driving at night?
 
  • #15,983
I've been looking at maps and thinking about where the Perps would have gone with Nancy. And yes, it would have taken more than one person in my opinion. I'm including a link to instant street view / aerial view, plus a section I annotated. There is lots of areas very near to her house where she could have been deposited, if in fact that is what happened to her. I don't think they would have headed in the direction of Tucson. Too risky. Here's where I would go looking.

As always, just amateur opinion and speculation.

 

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New theory: UFO abduction
Can't make sense of.any of this
 
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Has the Uber driver been cleared?
They interviewed her and it seems she was. I know it was in a MSM article posted way, way back on this thread.
 
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If they didn't have a search warrant than anything they found would likely be barred from evidence at trial.
Evidence collected during this "consensual" period is generally admissible in court because the residents waived their Fourth Amendment rights voluntarily
 
  • #15,987
It was reported multiple places that the ransom notes were sent to 3 news stations. No mention of being sent to the family or LE

that doesn't confirm they didn't receive it though. i think it's within the realm of plausibility that LE/family did receive one but didn't publicize it so kidnappers sent it to MSM. this also goes along with my earlier comment that the motive potentially had less to do with money than it did an obsession with savannah.
 
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YALL...she might've taken an Uber because she wanted to have a drink at dinner...maybe she just didn't want to drive...maybe sil and ag were fixing dinner and it was easier for her to Uber there...
This is said in my perimenopause alabama accent...and just my opinion. But my eye is twitching again with the Uber speculating....😵‍💫
I read this in an accent too. I got my laugh icon taken away, but wanted to tell u this was hilarious!
 
  • #15,989
It was reported multiple places that the ransom notes were sent to 3 news stations. No mention of being sent to the family or LE

Thats because the news stations disclosed it.
JMO.
 
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As aggravated as it gets sometimes, I truly believe we are all here to support Nancy and bring justice for whatever has happened.
Imho
 
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Has the Uber driver been cleared?
Yes.
See here:
Nancy Guthrie Case

Has anyone been cleared in Nancy's case?

Did some digging.

The Uber driver that dropped Nancy at her daughter Annie and son-in-law Tommaso Cioni's home the night before she went missing was cleared of suspicion according to the sheriff on Thursday, 2/5/26. Show more


 
  • #15,992
She didn’t want to drive to her daughter’s house and took Uber instead?
Fwiw I have a relative that drives during the day, but is no longer comfortable driving at night so they Uber if they'll be returning after dark.

I don't know if this is the case with her, but it's not uncommon for older people to give up night driving long before giving it up completely.
 
  • #15,993
that doesn't confirm they didn't receive it though. i think it's within the realm of plausibility that LE/family did receive one but didn't publicize it so kidnappers sent it to MSM. this also goes along with my earlier comment that the motive potentially had less to do with money than it did an obsession with savannah.
I know it doesn’t confirm it one way or another but what I meant is there is no way anyone here would be able to answer that since it hasn’t been specifically confirmed or denied.

Also, I feel like this would be a very, very complicated way to get SG’s attention if someone was obsessed with her. MOO
 
  • #15,994
The ransom note was sent directly to media outlets not the Guthrie's or FBI (which was one of many atypical characteristics of this "kidnapping')

TMZ, along with local Tuscon TV stations were the recipients and forwarded it to the FBI, so Levin/TMZ know all the details.


The media outlets know what was said in the letters. They DID NOT know if that information was true or not, nor did they have the right to know and subsequently leak that information. LE flat out gave TMZ privleged information if what Levin says is true.
 
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Huh. IMO this would explain the additional searches that were done at NG’s & AG’s. It always seemed to me like someone was running down a checklist saying, “ok did you do this? Ok, how about this? No?? Well go do it! Ok great job. Now how about this? No??? Well go do that too!” Maybe the additional searches that some of us were surprised weren’t done initially was because it took awhile for the FBI to get in there and make sure all investigative leads were done.
I am not clear on what was up with the camera(s) that were removed from the roof on the building behind the house. IRC it was several days after the house was released to the family, I think it was the third time they went back to search. If they were cameras that recorded it was a a huge oversight.
 
  • #15,997
Wow! I just watched his video, honestly he should probably be a comedian. Shocking though he called the SIL "creepy looking dude" at the 6:16 mark and at the 7:07 mark said "she's certainly not going to be sex trafficked, Who the hell would want that?" His semi truck mouth ( I could do better) makes me think he should be a comedian. IMO
That sounds disgusting, honestly.
 
  • #15,998
She didn’t want to drive to her daughter’s house and took Uber instead?
NG only drove during the daytime, not at night. It's not unusual for older people. As I've gotten older, I no longer drive at night.
 
  • #15,999
Whatever your thoughts are on her, do we know why AB has been mum for days? Someone said she was gagged but that was unconfirmed. I wonder if she's chosen to remain silent, or been gagged, or her source was gagged? Just curious, because if she did have a LE source, I would imagine she would have otherwise unknown info (for better or worse)
 
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If T is involved, I think it is highly likely that A is involved too. She would have said something if he had taken hours to come home after dropping her off, or probably noticed if he left again late at night.
I would sadly have to agree.
 
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