AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Knox]

Is there a way for the moderators to "pin" a post on top of this thread/discussion that includes a timeline with verified information (and citations)... that can be updated as needed?

There should be a media thread for this case?

 

[TheDinks]

That’s the thing though….According to the guy from TMZ - who also received the first ransom note - the note said the Apple Watch was not in a place one would typically think it would be and he thinks that got the FBI’s attention. See link below for that interview.

Now the thing is we don’t know where the watch was located so we don’t know if the note was accurate with where it said the watch was. But local LE & the FBI do know where it was found. If it was not found where the note said it was - which wasn’t a typical location that someone would likely guess - if it was not where the note said then why would LE & FBI allow the family to even consider that the people who sent that note might have NG? And if it was where they said - how did they know?

Did they kidnap her? Did they help the actual perp cover up what really happened? Was the request for ransom an afterthought and that’s why it took so long for that first ransom note to be sent? Were the people who sent the note actually there that night at all or were they just fed info? And if that was the case, who fed them the info? The actual perp? Someone who helped in a cover-up? A leak in LE?

We don’t know any of those answers. But I’m about 75% sure that the location they gave for the watch was accurate and therefore about 75% sure that they had info either from being there or being told details by someone who was. I am not convinced yet that they ever had a living NG though - if they ever had her at all.

I honestly wish that guy would STFU - He should not be mentioning anything contained in ransom demands full stop. I mean, I guess we can't be surprised, given who he is that he making a meal out of it!

I wish FBI/LE had gagged him regarding ransom... although imo that angle is done so, if that is the case, it won't matter.

 

[CandyKiss]

Is there a way for the moderators to "pin" a post on top of this thread/discussion that includes a timeline with verified information (and citations)... that can be updated as needed?

[I'm new here - sorry if this is a dumb question!]

Post in thread 'Nancy Guthrie, 84, missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026 - MEDIA, MAPS, TIMELINE thread *NO DISCUSSION*'

Yesterday at 4:40 PM

Savannah Guthrie's most recent plea for her mother

nancy guntrie - Yahoo Video Search Results

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[Miep Knipperdolling]

Post in thread 'Nancy Guthrie, 84, missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026 - MEDIA, MAPS, TIMELINE thread *NO DISCUSSION*'

Yesterday at 4:40 PM

Savannah Guthrie's most recent plea for her mother

nancy guntrie - Yahoo Video Search Results

The search engine that helps you find exactly what you're looking for. Find the most relevant information, video, images, and answers from all across the Web.

video.search.yahoo.com

• swanniee11

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Thank you.

 

[TheDinks]

There should be a media thread for this case?

There is one, I noticed when this thread was on temp shutdown, someone posted a theory there - despite it saying no discussion, sorry...made me smirk a lil

 

[KonaHonu]

Suspects in a kidnapping. Charges can be upgraded later.

But to be clear, cops can't just go to a judge and say "we suspect them in a kidnapping and we want to search their house." They need specific evidence to convince a judge to issue the warrant and the warrant must be fairly specific regarding what they are looking for. Evidence collected outside the scope of the warrant can't be used at trial.

A consentual warrant is far more dangerous because they can seize anything they find even it was not something they were looking for. I personally would never consent to a search for any reason no matter how innocent I were.

 

[stmichael]

I honestly wish that guy would STFU - He should not be mentioning anything contained in ransom demands full stop. I mean, I guess we can't be surprised, given who he is that he making a meal out of it!

I wish FBI/LE had gagged him regarding ransom... although imo that angle is done so, if that is the case, it won't matter.

He's not the only one. A reporter from KGUN9 Tuscon, which also received the same note was the one who spilled the $6M ransom by 5pm today or NG will be killed.

Many including LE experts believe it was the person/s intentions to play this out in the media, perhaps to inflict further distress. Those experts also point out this is very atypical and counterproductive for usual ransoms involving professional criminals (who quietly just want the money without heat on them).

 

[SRWCF]

Holy monkey, fbi offices around the country are deploying , wow, is this normal?

Maybe this is the result of Trump saying all agencies would be at their disposal?

 

[simlyme]

That was exactly my thought too. I believe it started when she and MK were discussing the case right?

I think it started when she said TC was a probable perp, then from there it went on. But , I'm guessing her and SG had some words. On with MK she was noy taking any of it back. It could be her so called "secret" source has been subpoenaed and asked why he would reveal such a thing, or if he even did. I would stay out of this thing completely and let LE / FBI run the investigation. I've noticed a lot of media people have have really toned down ,one I think of is BE. You could see when he wsas on the AB segment and she was running her mouth , he was a little perplexed. So , yea, I think they all need to take chill pills, they're not helping.

 

[ssarahbg]

If they didn't have a search warrant than anything they found would likely be barred from evidence at trial.

Not if the family signed a “consent to search”. A warrant if generally only needed if they do not have consent, in emergency cases, or if there is a need to search in privacy. If the families signed a consent, LE has the ability to search and anything found in the search can be used as evidence in a court of law. But the homeowners can revoke consent at any time and limit areas of search, which then LE would be required to get a warrant for those areas. If they have not placed any limitation, LE has the right to search given the consent is signed as defined by areas in the consent (home, cars, personal property, electronics, outer lying property).

 

[missy1974]

I honestly wish that guy would STFU - He should not be mentioning anything contained in ransom demands full stop. I mean, I guess we can't be surprised, given who he is that he making a meal out of it!

I wish FBI/LE had gagged him regarding ransom... although imo that angle is done so, if that is the case, it won't matter.

uhmmm the FBI talked about the Watch and floodlight in the last press conference on Thursday. He only talked about it AFTER they did IIRC

 

[submarine7]

Yep, deception during interrogation - not public statements, right?

Police can lie. They do it a lot. They lie to suspects and at times to the public. That's one reason people are advised against speaking to police without counsel.

 

[Rush4087]

Although you probably can't read anything into the fact that the deadline passed without the ransom being paid, and that the tone of SG's latest (and solo) video almost had an undercurrent of anger to it, if I WERE to read anything into it, it would be that SG may think she knows who kidnapped her mother.

Obviously I could be way wrong..

I have an older brother and a younger sister, and I can't say enough good things about either one. We grew up very close and remain close to this day (we are in our mid-late 60's). We know each other very well.

Not long after this thread began I started wondering: if the three of us were in the same room together over and over - in the same tense circumstances that SG, AG, TC, and CG have been in this week - would I be able to tell if one of them (and/or their spouse) had perhaps kidnapped our mother?

I'm sure it's different for each family and for different siblings with different age spacing, and we typically don't know in-laws as well as we do our siblings, but my answer has always been, yes.

What do you guys think?

Jmo

 

[Mayor Perk]

Many including LE experts believe it was the person/s intentions to play this out in the media, perhaps to inflict further distress.

No doubt about that in my mind. I think the author of these ransom notes very purposefully sent the letter to TMZ knowing it would turn into an all out circus. Just focusing on local media in Tucson wasn't enough.

 

[dogmom805]

Yes, the sealing of the warrant keeps it hidden from public and the person(s) listed in the warrant.
If consent refused, LE would inform they have a warrant. The difference is an unsealed warrant will show you the details. The sealed warrant just says they can search.

Usually consent is best way to go in sealed warrant situations as they are sealed for a reason.

So can the scenario still be true that they already DID have a sealed warrant to search, and then asked consent, and they said yes, so then technically the search was due to an informal consent by AG/SIL, not a warrant?

 

[simlyme]

There should be a media thread for this case?

I think there is @tricia , I was on it earlier and accidently posted on it thinking I was here

 

[TheDinks]

He's not the only one. A reporter from KGUN9 Tuscon, which also received the same note was the one who spilled the $6M ransom by 5pm today or NG will be killed.

Many including LE experts believe it was the person/s intentions to play this out in the media, perhaps to inflict further distress. Those experts also point out this is very atypical and counterproductive for usual ransoms involving professional criminals (who quietly just want the money without heat on them).

Exactly. SO many commentators, including those with hostage experience, have stated they do not believe ransom demand is linked to situation with Ms Guthrie.

That's the consensus and I agree and also think the family believe it now too (following Savannah's latest vid)

 

[KonaHonu]

Folks, it's Tucson not Tuscon!

 

[SRWCF]

I think it started when she said TC was a probable perp, then from there it went on. But , I'm guessing her and SG had some words. On with MK she was noy taking any of it back. It could be her so called "secret" source has been subpoenaed and asked why he would reveal such a thing, or if he even did. I would stay out of this thing completely and let LE / FBI run the investigation. I've noticed a lot of media people have have really toned down ,one I think of is BE. You could see when he wsas on the AB segment and she was running her mouth , he was a little perplexed. So , yea, I think they all need to take chill pills, they're not helping.

This. 100%. They only come off like vultures when they drop bombs such as this. I mean, my dudes, there is someone's life on the line here. Have some damn respect, if not for yourselves at least the family!

 

[simlyme]

There should be a media thread for this case?

Nancy Guthrie, 84, missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026 - MEDIA, MAPS, TIMELINE thread *NO DISCUSSION* here it is , not very active because maybe other thread is overwhelmed