AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #16,081
I think it started when she said TC was a probable perp, then from there it went on. But , I'm guessing her and SG had some words. On with MK she was noy taking any of it back. It could be her so called "secret" source has been subpoenaed and asked why he would reveal such a thing, or if he even did. I would stay out of this thing completely and let LE / FBI run the investigation. I've noticed a lot of media people have have really toned down ,one I think of is BE. You could see when he wsas on the AB segment and she was running her mouth , he was a little perplexed. So , yea, I think they all need to take chill pills, they're not helping.
BE is my GO To media source. AB is one level above NG, nails on a chalkboard.
 
  • #16,082
Yes, the sealing of the warrant keeps it hidden from public and the person(s) listed in the warrant.
If consent refused, LE would inform they have a warrant. The difference is an unsealed warrant will show you the details. The sealed warrant just says they can search.

Usually consent is best way to go in sealed warrant situations as they are sealed for a reason.
Huh?
 
  • #16,083
BE is my GO To media source. AB is one level above NG, nails on a chalkboard.
Oh, I like BE , but, I could tell when AB was giving her scoop on TC and the car being towed , he was like WT?? and he was right there at 1 of the properties. He said, oh I haven't heard that, both about the car and suspect. There's so very few you can count on anymore !
 
  • #16,084
There should be a media thread for this case?
On my phone, if I scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page, there’s a link there to the media thread.
Actually, not all the way down just underneath the text box where you would be writing a post.
 
  • #16,085
Adding: the part about the flood light in the backyard being damaged. All this speaks to the authenticity IMO.
Interesting another camera was found and removed (from guest house facing her driveway). It was missed on the other 6 or so searches?

When I drove by on the Monday after the alert went out, there was a white car beside the guesthouse and nothing else there. No police, no sheriff, no security... It was strange really. She is part of our CFHA (Catalina Foothills Homeowner's Association) and also in our Nextdoor area and she posted in November 2025 asking for camera recommendations.

It's surreal I have been here for 5+ years and suddenly, less than a mile from my home we are talking about this bizarre case. Like many of you have repeated over the hundreds of pages, it seems odd and burdensome to kidnap an 84 y/o with mobility issues.

Michael Ruiz has done some very strong investigative journalism and unearthed a Special Durable POA from last year as well as, a camera that was on the guest house on February 6th, yet as of yesterday is gone. How does this happen with all of the media camped out in front of the house?

Micael Ruiz from Fox News posted this on X. For some reason the link will not work when I embed it in the text.

If this has been posted, I did not see it in the media timeline.
ETA for clean up
 
  • #16,086
uhmmm the FBI talked about the Watch and floodlight in the last press conference on Thursday. He only talked about it AFTER they did IIRC

I meant his running commentary on whether ransom had been paid and details ONLY contained in demands.

Speaking out about monitoring the account specified for coin and whether $$ had been deposited or not is just wrong!

If it were a genuine kidnap for ransom case, giving out certain information could be disastrous.
 
  • #16,087
On my phone, if I scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page, there’s a link there to the media thread.
Yes, It's there , I just gave the link , Thank you
 
  • #16,088
Oh, I like BE , but, I could tell when AB was giving her scoop on TC and the car being towed , he was like WT?? and he was right there at 1 of the properties. He said, oh I haven't heard that, both about the car and suspect. There's so very few you can count on anymore !
Let’s see if he has her back on, bet that’s a hard no, lol.
 
  • #16,089
Although you probably can't read anything into the fact that the deadline passed without the ransom being paid, and that the tone of SG's latest (and solo) video almost had an undercurrent of anger to it, if I WERE to read anything into it, it would be that SG may think she knows who kidnapped her mother.

Obviously I could be way wrong..

I have an older brother and a younger sister, and I can't say enough good things about either one. We grew up very close and remain close to this day (we are in our mid-late 60's). We know each other very well.

Not long after this thread began I started wondering: if the three of us were in the same room together over and over - in the same tense circumstances that SG, AG, TC, and CG have been in this week - would I be able to tell if one of them (and/or their spouse) had kidnapped and perhaps murdered our mother?

I'm sure it's different for each family and for different siblings with different age spacing, but my answer has always been, yes.

What do you guys think?

Jmo
I've thought the same things and have thought about the sibling dynamic compared to my own family. But we also have only seen small glimpses into the G sibling relationships. I just don't feel like we know enough about them to speculate.
Jmho
 
  • #16,090
Wonder if they can do geofencing in that area to see what cell phones were in the area at the time of the activity linked to her being taken. Or maybe they are following up on that if it was done?
Very helpful idea.
 
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If they didn't have a search warrant than anything they found would likely be barred from evidence at trial.
Evidence is admissible if the resident consents to the search.
 
  • #16,093
So can the scenario still be true that they already DID have a sealed warrant to search, and then asked consent, and they said yes, so then technically the search was due to an informal consent by AG/SIL, not a warrant?
OR ask for consent and at the same time explain why they’d also like a warrant. I’m really confused about the warrant issue. My take is the warrant is a good thing in terms of a future trial. Any findings with only a consent could be argued against, while a warrant is solid? In this situation would LE prefer a sealed or unsealed warrant? Help me here. Do we even know if a warrant has happened here?
 
  • #16,094
DBM redundant
 
  • #16,095
Since FOX is allowed
Nancy was expected at a friend's house.....not church

On Feb. 1, Nancy did not arrive at her friend’s house as expected to watch the livestream. Concerned, the friend contacted Annie — Nancy’s daughter and Savannah Guthrie’s sister — to report that Nancy had not shown up and could not be reached.

The source emphasized that Nancy was expected to be at her friend’s home that morning, not at a Tucson church, and said the circumstances surrounding her absence have been inaccurately described in some coverage.


Thank you very much for this quality journalistic piece, with accurate and to the point news statement.
The statement of fact of this short article from a reputable and authorized source clears confusion about the time line, which confusion caused so much speculations and anguish for people who truly care about Savannah's mother.

Also, perhaps the "friend" called Annie and T instead of Savannah because the "friend" knew that Annie is local.

What still is of concern is that the early report about the initial ransom demand was addressed to Annie and T instead of Savannah. Knowing that Savannah is much more affluent with multi-millions $$$ and the ransom amount is large, it seems logical to ransom Savannah instead of Annie.

Amplified by the unusual involvement of TMZ and other msm, why would kidnappers call national attention to this case if they just want quick money and ... disappear with the money?
 
  • #16,096
Maybe and this is just a MAYBE, since she was supposably long time friends with SG, Sg asked her to leave the investigation to the REAL experts. As far as I'm concerned AB doesn't need to profit off of a "very" good friend. Sometimes you have to draw the line. AB originally caused a big ruckus with her so called , bombshell.😢
See below this may explain why AB in her latest podcast does not update us on her sources info about the son in law. JMO


Latest podcast AB
 
  • #16,097
I think the distance depends on the specific pacemaker and app, but it would not be very far. As for if it would still record data… it would only record data while there is electrical activity within the heart, I would think BUT I’m not sure. That’s an interesting thought and question and something I hope they considered
I just happened to see former FBI investigator Robin Dreeke suggest the same thing on a Hidden Killers YouTube. He said that the pacemaker would still connect even if she had passed. He said that it would need to be very close though. Within 100 feet or less. Reference video of discussion of Pacemaker connection
 
  • #16,098
Interesting another camera was found and removed (from guest house facing her driveway). It was missed on the other 6 or so searches?

When I drove by on the Monday after the alert went out, there was a white car beside the guesthouse and nothing else there. No police, no sheriff, no security... It was strange really. She is part of our CFHA (Catalina Foothills Homeowner's Association) and also in our Nextdoor area and she posted in November 2025 asking for camera recommendations.

It's surreal I have been here for 5+ years and suddenly, less than a mile from my home we are talking about this bizarre case. Like many of you have repeated over the hundreds of pages, it seems odd and burdensome to kidnap an 84 y/o with mobility issues.

Michael Ruiz has done some very strong investigative journalism and unearthed a Special Durable POA from last year as well as, a camera that was on the guest house on February 6th, yet as of yesterday is gone. How does this happen with all of the media camped out in front of the house?

Micael Ruiz from Fox News posted this on X. For some reason the link will not work when I embed it in the text.

If this has been posted, I did not see it in the media timeline.
ETA for clean up
Thank you for sharing. Interesting that Nancy was looking at cameras not too long ago. Your link doesn’t work for me?
 
  • #16,099
any drones up tonight at either NG or AG's properties - any activity?
 
  • #16,100
Is there a way for the moderators to "pin" a post on top of this thread/discussion that includes a timeline with verified information (and citations)... that can be updated as needed?

[I'm new here - sorry if this is a dumb question!]
There's already a separate thread for news stories only, no comments allowed.
 

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