AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SaraSmile]

I'm reposting to clarify. ​

There is nothing normal about this case. The son-in-law may have been the last person to see Nancy alive. The sheriff has not cleared anyone, and he has also stated there are no “prime suspects” at this time.

Because no one has been cleared, discussion is allowed. However, it must be done using initials only.

SHERIFF REFUSES TO RULE OUT SG'S BROTHER-IN-LAW, ACCORDING TO NYP.

The reason is simple. If someone is discussed as a possible suspect and their full name is repeated over and over, it follows them forever. Google does not forget. Using initials helps protect innocent people from long-term harm if they are ultimately not involved.

This situation is unprecedented for Websleuths. We are dealing with a kidnapping in which a family member was reportedly the last person to see Nancy. Shutting down the discussion of the people closest to Nancy and those who last saw her would effectively end the thread.

We are doing the best we can to balance open discussion with protecting innocent people. It is not a perfect system, but ultimately, we are a true-crime discussion forum, and when law enforcement has not cleared anyone and has not named a prime suspect, discussion must be allowed—carefully and responsibly.

Tricia

During AB’s original “ lead” about insider info on TC being linked, I took it that AB meant it could be someone TC knows, not necessarily TC himself doing crime.
TC would still be considered a conspirator.
JMO

 

[crcap]

I feel like this should’ve been solved by now with a more competent team working on it. JMO.

 

[Black eyed pea]

Jmoo, I think they should release the ransom notes to the public. There could be a style of phrasing, grammar, etc in those notes that someone could recognize.

Someone needs to start talking.

 

[danablue1]

Is posting a victim's address allowed on this site?

Sorry if it is not allowed but i.thought it was common knowledge

 

[gin2]

Yes, I understand that. My question is what is the point? If you're supposedly so close you attend the same event (in person or virtual) but don't acknowledge each other? What is the point of attending then?

I think it was a was a way of quietly connecting across the miles.

 

[SlimPickens]

SG was finally convinced that the kidnap/ ransom issue was a hoax.
Starting over, looking for Mom, need more clues and help.
JMO

I don't necessarily think she was convinced of that. I think she could've just as easily put that out because time was running out and she didn't want to potentially turn 6 million dollars into ether. I feel like it could've been a Hail Mary before having to make that difficult decision. JMO.

 

[mikeshanty]

Sorry if it is not allowed but i.thought it was common knowledge

I don't know the answer, maybe a Mod will confirm.

 

[Luna20]

Because Mrs. Guthrie and friends were in Tucson viewing the service livestreamed from New York and Savannah was attending in person at the Church in New York where she lives.

imo

First time I’m hearing that. Do you have a link?

 

[Napoli]

There is an alternate possibility that NG took the Uber to confront someone at AG's house. Once there, SIL had an altercation with NG, and NG never returned to her home. Someone else may have returned all of her things there, and staged the house to look like a crime scene.

Then how do you explain the pacemaker syncing until 228 AM?

 

[Walela]

This seems odd. Why put up billboards in Texas? Unless they think she is alive and being moved.

Via I-10, El Paso Texas is about a 4.5 hour drive. Distance from El Paso, TX to Tucson, AZ

 

[Cryptic]

I may be reading into this too much, but why not all of the hired help, just some? Unless they have a specific reason…?

They seem to be testing a variety of help.

Perhaps the use of the word “some” could reflect say: main and current employees.

Depending on the organization / size of the landscaping, pool, house cleaning businesses, the number of people with access to the home could be small and relatively unchanging, or relatively large.

For example, pool and landscaping companies have many accounts, and rotating crews, including new hires , people who have left, etc. If so, the number of pool and landscape guys over a 12 month period could be relatively large and lead to:

LE: Did Jeffery ever work the Guthrie pool? Business Owner: Yes, probably, but was usually on another route.
LE: What about Jose?
Business Owner: Uhhm..... probably not, but maybe when we had alot of sick calls that month. He only worked for us for 9 months, then moved on.

 

[VTHOMM]

Yes, I understand that. My question is what is the point? If you're supposedly so close you attend the same event (in person or virtual) but don't acknowledge each other? What is the point of attending then?

People don't necessarily attend chuch for each other but rather, more importantly, attend church to get closer to God. Anyhow, I think they have posted a lot on this site about this already. I believe NG was supposed to have met up with a friend to livestream the service NY.

 

[turaj]

Yes and when I mentioned that yesterday, I was made fun of. I said yard worker. Regardless of their title, they would know an elderly wealthy woman lived alone and may have known she was related to a top news star at NBC. I mentioned maybe that person owed a cartel and received rude responses. As many years as I have been a member here, I am still amazed at how hateful others can be.
Funny, it’s not so funny today. Glad LE is finally gettting dna from the workers.

things move so fast here and admittedly if 30 pages behind I just go to latest so I missed some of that ridicule you received. Those workers or anyone with access to home have to be completely looked at. Could be them or people they known. I am suspicious of any of them and especially wonder about that camera on the roof and what the story is. Building permits for the last years will reveal who did serious work and my guess is AG and TC organized a lot of the work done at NG's home.

 

[Jade]

What is the point of attending the same service without communication? Wouldn't you Facetime beforehand a, "Good morning! It's so nice to see you! I'm happy you're joining me for service!" Or a quick check-in afterwards?

Maybe its just me but getting ready for church with kids and getting there, in my case to get a good seat, I'd look forward to talking to mom later on!

I'm not sure if SG did try to be in touch right after to say hello to the group only to find out NG was missing from the gathering and the upset already started back in Tucson.

In my culture a quickish exit to a restaurant lunch to get ahead of the church crowd is usual and a better setting for a check in to say hi to everyone.

I love the thought that SG would talk to them that have joined her worship service how proud they must have been of each other for their efforts to stay in touch and share their faith.

all imo

 

[stmichael]

Not to sound cliché but would people outside of the family know the relationship between members of the family? I keep thinking about the usual "they kept to themselves. We've been their neighbors for 30 years and never talked to them other than a wave."

I think the fact that there aren't people coming to their defense probably says alot. I didn't hear SG plead with people to stop spreading gossip about AG/SIL. Not that it means she thinks they are guilty - but it certainly is odd no one, even the family, seems to be speaking up for them.

Very possible some might. When you interview a friend circle or distant family members you get a lot of hearsay, but information that might peak your interest.

Say they interviewed a few friends and they reluctantly disclosed that AG hated her mothers guts or has been arguing lately, and her husband is very controlling and she'd do anything he said. Well, there's no smoking gun there but it would certainly give you an inclination on how to proceed.

But people are reluctant to disclose such things, and sometimes they divulge when pushed but qualify it with "but I don't think she'd ever hurt her...." etc. Some people are more guarded and don't have a huge friend/family circle -- it is something we haven't really heard much of and as an investigator I'd really want to know.

I would imagine they did personal interviews, maybe even some financial forensics, phone records of the family members, but again you have to tread lightly in this victim/potential suspect balance.

 

[SaraSmile]

I love this site because everyone has such creative thinking.

I believe that they used TMZ because they were confident they would release the information. Reliable news, sources may not have.

Also, many have surmised the prep is local to Tucson
JMO

 

[mikeshanty]

Does anyone else feel SG could have made a more explicit statement to take the heat off AG? For example, "I know there is a lot of discussion right now and people are trying to help - but please, my sister had nothing to do with this - she is hurting just like I am, and I would ask you to be respectful"?

 

[Napoli]

So if LE asks for a sample and someone refuses, will LE get a warrant?

I dont think you CAN get a warrant. Think about people who refuse to give a sample and they have plainclothes detectives following them around and taking their cups out of the trash at McDonalds to get a DNA sample. Not arrested? No sample can be forced to be submitted by a suspected perp. moo

 

[turaj]

Via I-10, El Paso Texas is about a 4.5 hour drive. Distance from El Paso, TX to Tucson, AZ

they are putting this on digital boards all over....easy to do and often billboard companies will put it on as public service info and no charge. Takes a few minutes t o get it up. Like an amber alert.

 

[turaj]

Does anyone else feel SG could have made a more explicit statement to take the heat off AG? For example, "I know there is a lot of discussion right now and people are trying to help - but please, my sister had nothing to do with this - she is hurting just like I am, and I would ask you to be respectful"?

she just can't do that....she is saying what LE approves and not getting into the case.