AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Oh wow. I feel like you can see the edge of a second mask on the eyelid on the right eye. Unless this person has very prominent lids.
I think you're right. It's multiple masks or multiple parts of masks and possible layering of said masks.
 
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Would a man place a gun holder in that spot?
 
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That facial hair is pretty distinctive. I imagine he started shaving the second this was released.

If not before.

Could also be fake I guess.
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I am just baffled by the activity with the plant before he presumably destroyed the camera...
 
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I agree. He seemed a bit caught off guard by the camera and slowly tried to figure out a way to block it. He seems quite well prepared except for that part which leads me to think he had not been casing the house for days or weeks prior. He looks like a burglar who decided to rob a random house… so why did he take an 84 yr old woman… and seemingly nothing else?? How horrifying for NG :( I didn’t really buy into the ransom theory, but I can’t think of any other motive after seeing this…

I doubt he is a random burglar who was there to rob. Burglars prefer empty houses. Odds are high in the middle of the night that the home is occupied by the resident who is fast asleep. He was there for NG imo.
 
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Oh wow. I feel like you can see the edge of a second mask on the eyelid on the right eye. Unless this person has very prominent lids.
Or the mask could be reversible and the other side could be a solid color which is giving the appearance of eyebrows
 
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There would be evidence of the murder in the house. I don't think LE has said anything to point to that.

I think the backpack has a change of clothes, rope, possibly foot covers as fibers from a car, home, etc would be picked up in the house.

But if there was a vehicle, JMO but surely he wouldn't need all those things with him in the house?

You'd leave some stuff in the car wouldn't you?

What if there was no vehicle and he took her into the desert? Or into another house nearby?
 
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I am just baffled by the activity with the plant before he presumably destroyed the camera...
If this wasn't so scary, it would be goofy! What the heck?
 
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DE is the SIL's bandmate. While I guess it could be him, the family says they don't recognize the guy in the photos/videos. Also, DE lacks the facial hair and as far as I can tell has prominent ears. I could be wrong, but I don't think it looks like the guy has large ears under that ski mask.

JMO
no but some are stuck on SIL
 
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Why would he want to expose his eyes and mouth? Like why not wear night vision glasses? Also, not cold in Tucson and he seems to wear such padded clothing.
Real night vision is hella expensive.

This guy is wearing a cheapo mis-matched holster and a backpack with freakin' reflective strips on it. He has a very weird thrown together get up that does not scream pro.
 
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DE is the SIL's bandmate. While I guess it could be him, the family says they don't recognize the guy in the photos/videos. Also, DE lacks the facial hair and as far as I can tell has prominent ears. I could be wrong, but I don't think it looks like the guy has large ears under that ski mask.

JMO
This perp looks younger than late 40s/50s too imo, which would exclude him.
 
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I think he is going to have to be identified by body habitus and clothing, cuz that face is likely disguised...
I see a man in 20's/30's....?
 
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Hoping some of my fellow gun owners will chime on this type of carry. Is this what we're seeing on the Nest photos/videos?

"Mexican carry" refers to the practice of carrying a handgun inside the waistband (IWB) without a holster, typically positioned at the front (appendix position). The term originated in the 19th and early 20th centuries and refers to the habits of Mexican vaqueros (cowboys) and civilians. [1, 2, 3]


Here is why it is called "Mexican carry":
  • Historical Context (19th-Early 20th Century): During times of political instability and restrictive gun laws in Mexico, citizens often defied bans on carrying firearms.
  • Defiance of Restrictions: To avoid being caught with a holster—which would be obvious evidence of carrying a weapon to authorities (Federales)—men would simply tuck their revolvers into their waistband behind their belt.
  • Convenience and Stealth: This method allowed them to quickly discard the weapon, if necessary, and retrieve it later.
  • Cultural Origin: The term is considered a historical reference to the practices of Mexican vaqueros and citizens of that era, rather than a derogatory term, notes firearms expert Massad Ayoob. [1, 2, 3, 4]
While the term is synonymous with "appendix carry" today, modern "Mexican carry" specifically highlights the lack of a holster, which is generally considered unsafe with modern pistols due to the risk of the trigger being snagged. [4, 5, 6]

AI responses may include mistakes.
[1] Appendix Carry 101: Everything You Need to Know
[2] Mexican Carry: Appendix Carry Without a Holster
[3] Appendix Carry-Mexican Style - Have Gun Will Train Colorado
[4] [5] Appendix Carry - Is it right for you? - Cajun Arms
[6]
No. Just reading that tells you no holsters and inside the waistband.
 
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While the term is synonymous with "appendix carry" today, modern "Mexican carry" specifically highlights the lack of a holster, which is generally considered unsafe with modern pistols due to the risk of the trigger being snagged. [4, 5, 6]
But there is a holster, people noticed it is actually mismatched to the gun that's in it
 
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Inverted ....not great but decent
Thanks that's awesome!! Is it just me or does his right eye turn up more than the left. Not like a cat eye but kinda?
 
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Yes, Libby’s pic of RA was the key to the case.
Remember the guesses about height weight?
Any guesses height and weight with this person?

JMO
5 “10”- 6feet
 

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