AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I was right. It

It's always felt to me that he wasn't using the flowers to cover the doorbell cam because he didn't get them before approaching, and with all in that backpack he could have brought something that actually worked to cover it, like duct tape. Plus, you have to admit some flowers is NOT a very good camera block.

With all that said... it just feels to me like he was holding them out for the camera to capture them. Why? Absolutely NO clue. Only he knows why he did that. But, it feels to me like there was a purpose (other than trying to block the lens).

Maybe part of his communication to the family, that only he'd know, is "I held out flowers to the camera". That way LE knew they had the right guy that was communicating thru the ransom letters. It took a while before those images were released so that very well could be what the purpose of holding them up would be.

JMO!!!

I don’t think him holding out the flowers he just seemed to randomly pull out of the walkway, at the spur of the moment, is some type of secret message to LE. That seems a little far fetched.
 
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Blew this shot up. Can see something of the flashlight in his mouth:
You'll need to delete it, has been modified not just enlarged
 
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I believe they only did a $300 deposit to test if the transaction would go through, this is very common with bitcoin transactions especially when you plan to send a huge sum after that!
Harvey at TMZ seemed reluctant to give any info other than there was "activity" in the bitcoin wallet. So apparently it was the other news agency KGUN 9 that reported the amount is less than $300. Activity in Bitcoin account from ransom email; less than $300 in activity

Wth. Why is this being reported. All that does is potentially indicate that a big payment is still perhaps to be made, so maybe everyone on tv can stop talking about the mechanics.

I need to keep the rest in my head. Feels very irresponsible. I'm all for transparency but we don't actually have to be given second to second updates. This is not a tv show. There has got to be extreme risk.
 
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I am finding these real-time updates very concerning. The perp should not know the moment that the SWAT team leaves the station.
 
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If the FBI could pull the Nest video of the suspect, I wonder if they could pull any more - such as video of the car pulling in to drop NG off?
 
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Nancy Guthrie is Still Missing: A Closer Look Into the Investigation & The Guthrie Family​

 
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the backpack has reflectors on the front of the straps, and two tone straps. a lot of packs I see on line have back reflectors....it also looks fairly new from the video. IMO. I have not found one with that reflector pattern online.
 
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If the FBI could pull the Nest video of the suspect, I wonder if they could pull any more - such as video of the car pulling in to drop NG off?
they may have other footage but just shared these clips for reasons.
 
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the backpack has reflectors on the front of the straps, and twp tone straps. a lot of packs I see on line have back reflectors....it also looks fairly new from the video. IMO. I have not found one with that reflector pattern online.


I don't know that the straps are actually two-tone in the Nest video. Remember that we are looking at a night vision/IR image which misrepresents colors and tonality.
 
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Sound asleep at 2am most likely
I’m only in my 60s but it’s been a while since I’ve reliably been asleep at any time of night. Post menopausal insomnia is a thing. Wouldn’t count on anyone being asleep.
 
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Found it. Near the bottom

Looks like the same guy to me. The jacket is the same. You can see the black line across the chest. The shoes are just in different lighting. I don’t know why he took the backpack off, but it’s the same guy, no backpack.
 
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I am finding these real-time updates very concerning. The perp should not know the moment that the SWAT team leaves the station.
Agree... would it be better practices for the "staging area", if you will, to be elsewhere in these sort of cases? Not saying the SWAT team here is related to NG, but in theory
 
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No way, no how.
The news keeps saying it’s a common way of carrying for people in that area, as well as women in general? They’re calling it “Mexican carry”. I’m in PA and have never seen such a thing…
 
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I’m watching CNN and just saw the photo of the suspect without the backpack, gun and eyes covered. I wonder when this was? Anyone able to find the pic to link? I have a screenshot from my TV.
Yes, its on FBI's website (scroll down)
 

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