AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Found it. Near the bottom

Looks like the same guy to me. The jacket is the same. You can see the black line across the chest. The shoes are just in different lighting. I don’t know why he took the backpack off, but it’s the same guy, no backpack.
 
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I am finding these real-time updates very concerning. The perp should not know the moment that the SWAT team leaves the station.
Agree... would it be better practices for the "staging area", if you will, to be elsewhere in these sort of cases? Not saying the SWAT team here is related to NG, but in theory
 
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No way, no how.
The news keeps saying it’s a common way of carrying for people in that area, as well as women in general? They’re calling it “Mexican carry”. I’m in PA and have never seen such a thing…
 
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I’m watching CNN and just saw the photo of the suspect without the backpack, gun and eyes covered. I wonder when this was? Anyone able to find the pic to link? I have a screenshot from my TV.
Yes, its on FBI's website (scroll down)
 
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I am finding these real-time updates very concerning. The perp should not know the moment that the SWAT team leaves the station.
Me too. This is all very strange and not in a good way, tbh. And I say that as a true-crime follower.

jmo
 
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Looks like the same guy to me. The jacket is the same. You can see the black line across the chest. The shoes are just in different lighting. I don’t know why he took the backpack off, but it’s the same guy, no backpack.
No gun either. At least not being carried the same way as in the other video….
 
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Anyone else think that gun looked like it had a knob at the end, like a Roth or Japanese Nambu? That would be an unusual gun.

Fixed my typo 🤣
 
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The gait of the December trespasser also has a turned out left foot. IMO
Ummmm, the feet are small too, and the color of the pants and the way he wears them (might even be the same ones), the reflective clothing, and the way he walks and moves. WOW. I hope LE looked at this!!!!
 
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I wonder if they’re publicizing the SWAT and hostage teams to see if the suspect makes moves, reportedly is local. MOO
 
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But one photo shared by FBI Director Kash Patel appears to show the masked individual not wearing a backpack or holster, contrasting other images that do show the gear.

There could be a couple of possibilities for why this photo appears to be different, and we don’t have timestamps to figure out the timeline of when these photos were taken, correspondent and former FBI agent Josh Campbell said.

“It’s possible that if this individual was around that home for quite some time and wanted to do some kind of form of reconnaissance up to the doorway itself,” Campbell said. “Obviously walking up there without a brandished firearm that you could see would certainly be less threatening
 
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I don’t think him holding out the flowers he just seemed to randomly pull out of the walkway, at the spur of the moment, is some type of secret message to LE. That seems a little far fetched.
So does the fact he was blocking the camera with them, especially since he had already approached it and walked back to get some. That sounds more far-fetched to me. Just trying to ponder other reasons he'd do that. I'm not convinced he did what I said, it was an idea I was tossing out.

All JMO.

ETA - Plus, he's not even trying to hide behind them, or use them to block his face. Not from this angle. Nope.

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I’m watching CNN and just saw the photo of the suspect without the backpack, gun and eyes covered. I wonder when this was? Anyone able to find the pic to link? I have a screenshot from my TV.
IMO its the same guy just washed out in the distance and IR glow. You can just differentiate the black piping across the chest that the other captures have, and as for someone saying the shoes are different--you can barely make them out in the washed out distance. Seems to me he had his gun concealed away from the house and took it out as he approached (for intimidation/readiness) and had the backpack off to the side until his approach.
 
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Yes, anyone who has the wallet address, including the owner of the wallet can see the deposit (including the amount) without logging in anywhere. The same way TMZ and other media saw it.
but how many people have the address?
 
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It's made me a bit ill every time I've thought too much about the suspect pics. I cannot imagine how terrified Nancy must have been. Like something that only happens in movies or your worst nightmares come to life. How could someone put an innocent old woman through that?
 
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Occams razor tells us its to block the

There would be evidence of the murder in the house. I don't think LE has said anything to point to that.

I think the backpack has a change of clothes, rope, possibly foot covers as fibers from a car, home, etc would be picked up in the house.
And perhaps NG phone, apple watch, leftover dinner food, change of clothes, snacks. Backpack seems teen like. Walk is like zig zag. Time to pick the plants.... This seems to be someone who knew no one was home
 
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but how many people have the address?
We don't know, but the question I was answering was whether the account holder (not the right technical term, but it's how the question was phrased) can see it without logging in anywhere. And, because anyone can see it without logging in anywhere, the answer is a clear yes.
 
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