AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Anyone else unable to sleep because the eerie doorbell cam footage is creeping them out?
It's been difficult to sleep throughout this case for me. Nancy reminds me of my mom who passed away in 2024. The doorbell footage really is eerie and makes me feel even more hurt for the G family
 
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Anyone else unable to sleep because the eerie doorbell cam footage is creeping them out?
I was just about to write a message asking exactly this!! Yes and now I’m not even going to put my phone on do not disturb so I will probably get woken up by alerts from random cats and raccoons passing in front of my camera!
 
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Just FYI but in addition to the person detained - there is active surveillance right now on other houses/people/ and a specific "thing" ... potentially we could see this all come to an end tonight.

Fingers crossed.
🙏
 
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They are two different people!

The SIL was out door dashing, got pulled over and detained. He is the POI.

The cops separately have gone to the house. Without the detainee. While searching the house they handcuffed, as a precaution, another young man. The son. Who was then unhandcuffed.
Ok. Thx. I’m still catching up. I didn’t even realize the detained POI was related to the people in the house.

That’s pretty relevant 🤦🏻‍♀️

So so behind 😫
 
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All of my packages from UPS, Fed Ex, Prime have my full name on them.
I always peel off all the address labels before recycling the boxes and envelopes they come in. I'm kind of paranoid I guess, but I don't want my name floating around out there.

ETA: Of course, that's after they arrive and I don't have an important name and no one of any import is sending me anything.
 
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I always peel off all the address labels before recycling the boxes and envelopes they come in. It's kind of paranoid I guess, but I don't want my name floating around out there.

ETA: Of course, that's after they arrive and I don't have an important name and no one of any import is sending me anything.
I do the same…remove all labels from shipping boxes/envelopes and then I shred the labels.
 
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Zoom in there are two army helicopters Picacho State Park (one just to the east and one south near Avra) as well as a private helicopter.
I wonder if she was left in that Park?
 
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It's been difficult to sleep throughout this case for me. Nancy reminds me of my mom who passed away in 2024. The doorbell footage really is eerie and makes me feel even more hurt for the G family
Yes, the vulnerability aspect of the elderly is probably why I've been so drawn to this case. Also, it's happening in Arizona - where I currently live. I just keep thinking about how fortunate a person is to make it to age 84 and then this...

I'm not a Today Show watcher so the celebrity aspect isn't that meaningful to me. It's definitely the empathy factor and thinking of the years my mom lived on her own.
 
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I hope this is ok to post...but I'm thinking about all the men and women working tonight especially to find Nancy and get justice for her. Praying for safety and protection for them tonight and for Nancy's family to get answers. Today's updates have really had an effect on those of us on ws and I literally can't imagine how her family feels.
My opinion as always
 
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Ok. Thx. I’m still catching up. I didn’t even realize the detained POI was related to the people in the house.

That’s pretty relevant 🤦🏻‍♀️

So so behind 😫
I have to apologize but my mind keeps changing PoI to 🤬🤬🤬🤦🏻‍♀️
 
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Thank you. I’ve been thinking this but needed someone sharper who understands to put it in words. A crime like this takes sophistication at some point or by one of the players. IMHO.
Yes. A true crypto “expert” would not have a BTC ransom sent to an address where it sits for more than milliseconds. News reports indicated a small deposit was made into the wallet and had not been moved. That’s a rookie move. Tells me this person doesn’t understand that art and speed of remixing crypto. A true expert would have already written a program to instantly move any deposit made into wallet A into a crypto remixer (such as Monero) where decoy transactions are used to confuse the trail. Or… so I’m told 😉
 
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Flight 24 now shows going all the way to the border at Nogales, then going nw of Highway 19. Headed back to Tucson.
Yup! Thats where we thought she’d be! 35+ year LEO here. Praying for Nancy🙏
 
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Also, the MIL said the van broke down this past Friday. As in 5 days ago. So the SIL was, at minimum, keeping up appearances that he was delivering packages for the entire first work week she was missing. Wouldn’t make any sense if she was in the van.
His van “broke down” last Friday? I wonder when the suspicious white van in Nancy’s neighborhood was reported in the news. Ie. If someone’s vehicle is reported as being suspicious, it might make a person not want to drive it. Speculation only.
 
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It's been difficult to sleep throughout this case for me. Nancy reminds me of my mom who passed away in 2024. The doorbell footage really is eerie and makes me feel even more hurt for the G family
It's made me think of my grandmother who passed away in 2022. She was in an LTC and in her 90s...so on the one hand, very different. But the fundamental vulnerability of Nancy and the fact there's nothing we've learned that points to anything other than the desire to abduct her (and, at a minimum, potentially let her die) has been very jarring to me.
 
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Yes. A true crypto “expert” would not have a BTC ransom sent to an address where it sits for more than milliseconds. News reports indicated a small deposit was made into the wallet and had not been moved. That’s a rookie move. Tells me this person doesn’t understand that art and speed of remixing crypto. A true expert would have already written a program to instantly move any deposit made into wallet A into a crypto remixer (such as Monero) where decoy transactions are used to confuse the trail. Or… so I’m told 😉

that's all Greek to me
but thank you
 
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Anyone wonder if this was a ransom situation, but it didn’t go as planned? Maybe she passed away due to injuries or heart attack after leaving the home with the perp/perps. If this happened, it would be hard to utilize her as they intended. They may need to just cover up their tracks and dispose of the body.

I think the ransom notes are bogus and not legitimate. You don’t wait 3 days, with an 84 year old woman to care for, to request a ransom amount. Something doesn’t add up…
 
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I was thinking, deceased, not alive. I don’t know how far away the van is parked. She just gesture over to the right. Could be out in the middle of a field or something for all we know.
The smell of that would be more than enough for someone to notice.
 
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His van “broke down” last Friday? I wonder when the suspicious white van in Nancy’s neighborhood was reported in the news. Ie. If someone’s vehicle is reported as being suspicious, it might make a person not want to drive it. Speculation only.
But he’d been driving the van for the first week, immediately after she disappeared. That doesn’t make any sense to me. His van is also not white, according to the BE interview.
 

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