AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[armchairagatha]

No one knows and hopefully it remains that way. NG medical information is protected by law and I sincerely hope if anyone in the media leaks any of her private medical info that they bring the hammer down on them. The sheriff and later the family were the ones that said, and I’m paraphrasing here, she could essentially pass away and lived in constant pain without access to some of her medication(s). The public knows she needs daily medications, uses a cane due to limited mobility , is sharp as a tack, and has a pacemaker. Blood thinners haven’t been mentioned to my knowledge. The public will most likely never know anything more than that regarding her health and it should honestly remain that way. MOO

Painkillers are not required to preserve life. Elderly people have aches and pains and limited mobility so she probably took painkillers to relieve pain. A pacemaker doesn’t need to sync with a phone in order to keep working. In other words, there is nothing to suggest her life was threatened due to lack of medicines. She could very well still be alive.

 

[Monepone]

Someone keeps saying that these nest doorbell things have a key. I believe that to be true. If someone had given the perp the key, he wouldnt have looked surprised and clumsily tried to remove it. OR he did have the key and still needed to cover the doorbell with his hand as he manipulated the key to get the device out of the holder. Either way, he had to know the doorbell was there. JMO

The key is similar to how Ring has security screws. Its minimal protection from someone just easily stealing your camera. Nevertheless, one good hit or kick would break any of these doorbells off their mounting brackets.

 

[Spectrix]

I have one, its not a key a such but a sort of flat plastic item that you need to insert behind the housing, quite easy to remove if you know how, but you do need to remove it, and that takes time and a little experience to do so. So I think this person knows how to do it, but He or she isn't the quickest at doing it.

This doorbell cam removal tool that you speak of, does it happen to resemble a bunch of flowers?
Because that is what he used.

 

[Trino]

I feel like the media bungled this not the FBI.

Media did not stop a man, arrest him, break into his MIL's home. They reported what the FBI was doing. Fair game.

 

[tkcrockett]

It said ‘lost connection’ at 2.28am so that implies they have data that shows connectivity up to this point, which is probably based on the Bluetooth connectivity history on the phone.

perhaps this will help...

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Technical questions here about pacemakers and trackers (phone/watch), if anyone knows the answers.

What specific type of transmission mechanisn does a pacemaker use to send info to a watch or phone? Perhaps microwave? (I believe Bluetooth uses microwave) or maybe radio signals?

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How does the pacemaker know it is connecting to the correct tracker? In other words, if you go into the retirement home tv room and there are four elders with pacemakers and each has their phone or watch, how does the technology make sure each pacemaker only reports to the proper tracker? Serial number or similar when creating the account? Or is there actually a chance they could interfere with each other?

Thanks in advance to anyone who helps me understand how this works.
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I have a pacemaker with monitoring. It communicates with my app via radio frequency (commonly referred to as Bluetooth nowadays). It does not communicate 24/7. This is where people are getting confused. Every night between midnight and 3 am usually, the app sends an interrogation to my pacemaker, and only my pacemaker not anyone else's, and my pacemaker sends a data pack to the app. If the app receives a data pack with concerning data it is then transmitted to the monitoring company. Then nothing else happens until the next interrogation 24 hours later.

It looks like what happened in this case is the app sent an interrogation at 2:28 am but the pacemaker did not answer. This happens sometimes with mine if my phone is dead or not in range when the interrogation is sent.

The important thing to keep in mind is this is not like an EKG that is collecting and sending data in real time. The pacemaker and app are not talking to each other outside of the routine nightly interrogation. The only thing that should be assumed from the 2:18 am disconnected information is that when the app sent a query to the pacemaker the app could not contact the pacemaker because it was out of range

 

[missy1974]

Thank you for trying to get this point across. I have given up! People still want to believe 2:28am means the time when NG was last at her home. She was already gone by that time.

But a bluetooth connection to the phone is a constant ... until it isn't.... when it's out of range.

I believe this is what happened, no syncing, no downloading/transmitting of data to a doc or whatever else it does.

JMO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

If held for unreasonable amount of time for them to investigate probable cause and left in handcuffs, a detainment, can become a defacto arrest. That detainee needs council. If what he said was true, his rights were likely violated.

Thanks. I have obviously been thinking about this. I do hope that LE /FBI knows these time constraints.
Do you think we will be able to get those details.

Actually, I do hope they did everything by the book, and did not violate his rights.........
All we need is another sideline media circus.

 

[RatFace]

Carlos' eyes and mustache looks like lantana man. IMO.

He's even got the split/bare spot in the middle of thenmustache - although I guess that is common with sparse facial hair.

 

[SMK777]

Nancy Guthrie Live Updates: Man Detained for Questioning Is Released

The development came several hours after investigators released chilling video showing a masked figure on Ms. Guthrie’s front porch the morning of her disappearance.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Bobban]

I think you're confusing two things.

You need a tool to remove the doorbell from the mount. Some people might call it a "key," and this example of a replacement does, but as you can see it's just a thin piece of metal. You can (and I have) use anything that fits in the hole to remove the camera. This is not a "key" in the traditional sense, and requires nothing particularly special. IMO it says absolutely nothing about any prior knowledge or access.

Second, a few people have posted completely unsubstantiated claims that the intruder may have had a key to the house. I personally find this unlikely, and I don't think we have seen any credible reports or evidence to suggest it, but of course I am open to changing my mind if someone provides sources. I think this is just a random theory that someone posted in this thread and others ran with it.

Only someone who cares about removing the camera without damaging it would bother using the key. Someone already planning to force their way into another person's home doesn't care if the camera is damaged by brute-force.

 

[CuriousCricket]

I have one, its not a key a such but a sort of flat plastic item that you need to insert behind the housing, quite easy to remove if you know how, but you do need to remove it, and that takes time and a little experience to do so. So I think this person knows how to do it, but He or she isn't the quickest at doing it.

I'm guessing that one key works for all and not like car keys where each is individual?

 

[Tealgrove]

Exactly. I say this as a true-crime and breaking-news aficionado....we don't need LIVE COVERAGE of police investigations. Media followed LE from house-to-house yesterday. It's too much.

We can get information from written articles and prepared video. Those are fast enough and provide a moment of breathing space for everyone.

An investigation can be transparent without being broadcast live.

jmopinion

The Media Coverage is TOO MUCH and I fear it may cause serious consequences for the investigation.

Imagine if you are the person holding Nancy (if that’s ever been a thing), and you see this all unfolding. I’m going to call it quits, get rid of evidence and hopefully disappear.

Nancy never comes home, alive or deceased.

I think this has turned into a circus and it’s appalling

MOO

 

[NoseyRecluse]

He looks Hispanic to me. Nothing wrong with stating that IMO.

I agree. Let me say, too, I am married to an Hispanic person, so no racial motivation here. As a society, we have just really swung so far the other way. Now you cannot even throw out an ethnicity or nationality without being labeled racist.

 

[thefragile7393]

@thefragile7393 , are you local?

If so, are you aware of this newscaster, Ford Hatchett??? I feel he is conducting a good interview here.

HIS interview with the detainee is the best to me, because it was immediate, fresh and more authentic (Before this fellow starts talking to all media for his 15 minutes)

Ford Hatchett ABC15 Tucson

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021489057495478375

Yes I am local but I’ve never heard of this person. To be fair, ABC 15 is a Phoenix station so I’ve never seen him before but IMO this seems like a very good interview as well

 

[Tate123]

Media did not stop a man, arrest him, break into his MIL's home. They reported what the FBI was doing. Fair game.

No one was arrested. He was detained and released.

 

[cherryleaf]

Painkillers are not required to preserve life. Elderly people have aches and pains and limited mobility so she probably took painkillers to relieve pain. A pacemaker doesn’t need to sync with a phone in order to keep working. In other words, there is nothing to suggest her life was threatened due to lack of medicines. She could very well still be alive.

Her family said she needed medication to survive. That wasn’t pulled out of the ether. The public was told this. I’ve never thought or said that NG has passed and I still continue to be cautiously optimistic that she is alive. I was only stating what has been released to the public by the sheriff and family, nothing more.

 

[NoseyRecluse]

Painkillers are not required to preserve life. Elderly people have aches and pains and limited mobility so she probably took painkillers to relieve pain. A pacemaker doesn’t need to sync with a phone in order to keep working. In other words, there is nothing to suggest her life was threatened due to lack of medicines. She could very well still be alive.

But...that's what we were told from the get-go.

 

[maskedwoman]

Maybe she received a cease and desist.

Or, if they really are good friends, maybe Savannah just asked her to stop.

 

[Monepone]

He doesn't remember her name and he may have delivered packages to her address? Also seems detached that what's her name was kidnapped like he hasn't heard her name a million times if he has a TV or social media

Why would he remember delivering a package to an address? If he works for FedEx Amazon or UPS and side hustles doordash he's going to more houses than you could ever imagine. Also, some people literally do not watch any news. They live in their own bubbles worrying about their own problems.

 

[thefragile7393]

I agree. Let me say, too, I am married to an Hispanic person, so no racial motivation here. As a society, we have just really swung so far the other way. Now you cannot even throw out an ethnicity or nationality without being labeled racist.

I think IMO we can’t tell race or ethnicity because of the mask, truly. We can’t see many features at all and unless I can see the person in front of me and listen to voice, I personally wouldn’t be able to tell by these pictures alone