AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I wonder what the specifics were for detaining him in the first place. Sorry if I missed them.

I think it was due to a vehicle spotted somewhere and I say this because a reporter showed CP's mother-in-law something and asked if that was his and she affirmed it. JMO.
 
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I think it was a vehicle spotted somewhere and I say this because a reporter showed CP's mother-in-law something and asked if that was his and she affirmed it. JMO.
hmm....maybe hoping for a dashcam? A lot of delivery services require them for insurance purposes. If that was the case though, wouldn't a simple phone call suffice?
 
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El Paso airport announced closed for 10 days last night for national security concern. All flights canceled. Now reopened this morning. Has to be related! MOO
Fort Bliss would be capable of shutting flights down for 'National Security.' I don't believe a missing person's case would be elevated to 'National Security.'
 
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It's not just that NG daughter is a journalist; she's a journalist on a MSM morning news show. That feels like a personal connection to a lot of people. Parasocial, but still important in relation to social media consumption and clicks. It’s being taken too far. MOO
 
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Then again, the media presence makes it harder for police to abuse POI in vulnerable communities, or to arrest a scapegoat just to make it seem as though they’re achieving something.

It’s not the media’s fault that this case hasn’t been solved.
The media made this guys name known. Without that coverage, the police would have just reported a poi was questioned and released. No big circus. IMO. Police investigate leads. There is no instant here, like a tv show. This isn’t entertainment imo.
 
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My husband takes 11 each day and doctors seem unconcerned and almost annoyed when I inquire about which ones should or should not be taken at the same time. They shut me down and say "refer to the medication list" even though there is no info there about side effects. If NG was taken by someone close, I was thinking she may have been given yet another medication at the dinner Saturday night to ensure she slept soundly.
That would mean her family was involved. I pray that you are wrong.
Whoever this was though, had to know her schedule. He wasn’t in a hurry.
About your husbands meds, you can Google each one. Google will usually answer as best they can but will also refer you to a site that compares meds and tells you any side affects or dangers. I don’t recall the site at this moment but it’s very good.
ETA: I found it. It is drugs.com
 
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Ahh, maybe just a big coinky-dink that it closed then reopened with the same timing as the detaining and release...gotcha.
An airport is a major economic engine. Closing one has huge logistical and financial ripple effects for myriad people, companies, units like the postal service, and on things like mandated limits on flying hours for crew.

There is no way an airport is going to be shut down because of a lead in a single-person kidnapping case, no matter how famous the case. No way.
 
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No word on Uber driver. I still think its strange AG would not pick up NG for a dinner which was all of 10 min drive. Just bizarre
I don't think it's strange at all. I'm guessing NG doesn't drive at night. I believe she called the Uber knowing she didn't want to drive back home after dark. JMO. As for the Ub er driver, sure, LE should find him.
 
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Yes, at this point Media is interfering. FBI didn't release the name of the person detained. The mother-in-law did after being asked by media during the interview at her house.
Ya, I’m thinking the mother-in-law is in a bit of trouble this morning with her family.
 
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The media made this guys name known. Without that coverage, the police would have just reported a poi was questioned and released. No big circus. IMO. Police investigate leads. There is no instant here, like a tv show. This isn’t entertainment imo.
Without media presence, people can be thrown into detention for little cause. It is happening all the time.
 
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Fort Bliss would be capable of shutting flights down for 'National Security.' I don't believe a missing person's case would be elevated to 'National Security.'
No, but that seems to be the trending justification for lots of goings-on. JMO.....Quite convenient
 
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An airport is a major economic engine. Closing one has huge logistical and financial ripple effects for myriad people, companies, units like the postal service, and on things like mandated limits on flying hours for crew.

There is no way an airport is going to be shut down because of a lead in a single-person kidnapping case, no matter how famous the case. No way.
They didn't shut down I don't think for this- To me it seems there is some other, slightly disconcerting, federal issue at play here. If they did shutdown an airport for this - I would have other concerns
 
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I just wanted to talk about this for a moment, since a lot of people seem to be surprised and I think it's important information for being informed consumers of technology products.

If you use a cloud-connected device such as a security camera, the video is going to be uploaded to the servers no matter whether you have a subscription or not. If it wasn't, you would not be able to view the video at all in the app, and you wouldn't get any alerts. The way these cloud cameras work is that the app connects to the cloud service, and the camera connects to the cloud service, and that's where the video feed comes from. It simply does not work without going through the cloud. The subscription is just about whether you get access to any stored video history or not (and maybe things like enhanced alerts and object detection). There are security camera products that do not work this way, and you can buy them, but if you buy a cloud camera like a Nest or Ring, this is how it works.

You should also assume that any video or photos that go through a cloud service may be retained either briefly or indefinitely, and either intentionally or accidentally. This is an unavoidable result of the way these complex distributed systems work; it's not nefarious. I know there are people here who will not believe me, and that's fine, but I can say with certainty that Google is not storing 100% of video and images for all users forever. But that does not mean that every frame is deleted immediately, either (as we have clearly seen in this case). Some stuff is stored for a short period for processing. Other stuff may linger in caches, backups, or other ancillary data stores. Certain things may intentionally be retained for a longer period for various reasons. Sometimes they may be stored in ways that are trivial to access, and sometimes (usually in the more ancillary examples), it takes some real digging to piece it back together.

Two things can be true: not everything that goes to the server is saved, and anything that goes to the server might be saved. I realize that this nuance might be confusing if you're not technical, so it's easier to either assume "canceling the subscription means Google never sees anything" or "Google is lying to us and storing everything forever," but it really is neither of those.

Bottom line, if you're uneasy about having your information in the cloud service, do not buy a cloud-connected device. Buy one that records locally only. These have their own drawbacks, but you should make an informed decision about which tradeoffs make the most sense to you and your own risk profile. I personally don't worry about the cloud storage, but that's just me. No shame in making a different decision for yourself and your family.
Agreed. The images were stores in the cloud with or without a subscription.

The perp took the camera AFTER the images were already in the cloud (the camera itself does not store images).

The images could not be viewed the regular way, through the app on NG’s phone or devices because no subscription was paid up.

FBI was able to get a warrant to search part of cloud with timestamps, very laborious, thus it took a week to find these images of perp. Good news! FBI found them!

The search for perp continues.
JMO
 
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My husband takes 11 each day and doctors seem unconcerned and almost annoyed when I inquire about which ones should or should not be taken at the same time. They shut me down and say "refer to the medication list" even though there is no info there about side effects. If NG was taken by someone close, I was thinking she may have been given yet another medication at the dinner Saturday night to ensure she slept soundly.
Im no longer a nurse, and there are many in the medical community who would disagree and tell you listen to your doctor, he's educated etc. But there is no Doctor alive who can possibly know how 11 medications will all interact with each other, add in that every person has a little different chemistry, and there's just no way to know that without trial and error. And frankly, very few Doctors take this time to consider all of those interactions for one individual. I'm not saying your Doctor is wrong, but I AM saying if it concerns you, keep researching and pursuing this. JMOO. And I wish you much luck with that.
 
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I mean, even just taking a quick glance at his eyebrows makes it clear that this is not the masked man.

But there may be others helping who were identified via cell phone tower data
 
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IT seems that Carlos is released and no reason to arrest him. Boy was that disappointing after the build up last night. I wonder what the probable cause was for the search warrant?
 
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hmm....maybe hoping for a dashcam? A lot of delivery services require them for insurance purposes. If that was the case though, wouldn't a simple phone call suffice?
Delivery guy at 1:47 AM??? LOL
 
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I don't think it's strange at all. I'm guessing NG doesn't drive at night. I believe she called the Uber knowing she didn't want to drive back home after dark. JMO. As for the Ub er driver, sure, LE should find him.
LE traced the Uber driver and cleared her


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