AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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No word on Uber driver. I still think its strange AG would not pick up NG for a dinner which was all of 10 min drive. Just bizarre
I don't think it's strange at all. I'm guessing NG doesn't drive at night. I believe she called the Uber knowing she didn't want to drive back home after dark. JMO. As for the Ub er driver, sure, LE should find him.
 
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Yes, at this point Media is interfering. FBI didn't release the name of the person detained. The mother-in-law did after being asked by media during the interview at her house.
Ya, I’m thinking the mother-in-law is in a bit of trouble this morning with her family.
 
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The media made this guys name known. Without that coverage, the police would have just reported a poi was questioned and released. No big circus. IMO. Police investigate leads. There is no instant here, like a tv show. This isn’t entertainment imo.
Without media presence, people can be thrown into detention for little cause. It is happening all the time.
 
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Fort Bliss would be capable of shutting flights down for 'National Security.' I don't believe a missing person's case would be elevated to 'National Security.'
No, but that seems to be the trending justification for lots of goings-on. JMO.....Quite convenient
 
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An airport is a major economic engine. Closing one has huge logistical and financial ripple effects for myriad people, companies, units like the postal service, and on things like mandated limits on flying hours for crew.

There is no way an airport is going to be shut down because of a lead in a single-person kidnapping case, no matter how famous the case. No way.
They didn't shut down I don't think for this- To me it seems there is some other, slightly disconcerting, federal issue at play here. If they did shutdown an airport for this - I would have other concerns
 
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I just wanted to talk about this for a moment, since a lot of people seem to be surprised and I think it's important information for being informed consumers of technology products.

If you use a cloud-connected device such as a security camera, the video is going to be uploaded to the servers no matter whether you have a subscription or not. If it wasn't, you would not be able to view the video at all in the app, and you wouldn't get any alerts. The way these cloud cameras work is that the app connects to the cloud service, and the camera connects to the cloud service, and that's where the video feed comes from. It simply does not work without going through the cloud. The subscription is just about whether you get access to any stored video history or not (and maybe things like enhanced alerts and object detection). There are security camera products that do not work this way, and you can buy them, but if you buy a cloud camera like a Nest or Ring, this is how it works.

You should also assume that any video or photos that go through a cloud service may be retained either briefly or indefinitely, and either intentionally or accidentally. This is an unavoidable result of the way these complex distributed systems work; it's not nefarious. I know there are people here who will not believe me, and that's fine, but I can say with certainty that Google is not storing 100% of video and images for all users forever. But that does not mean that every frame is deleted immediately, either (as we have clearly seen in this case). Some stuff is stored for a short period for processing. Other stuff may linger in caches, backups, or other ancillary data stores. Certain things may intentionally be retained for a longer period for various reasons. Sometimes they may be stored in ways that are trivial to access, and sometimes (usually in the more ancillary examples), it takes some real digging to piece it back together.

Two things can be true: not everything that goes to the server is saved, and anything that goes to the server might be saved. I realize that this nuance might be confusing if you're not technical, so it's easier to either assume "canceling the subscription means Google never sees anything" or "Google is lying to us and storing everything forever," but it really is neither of those.

Bottom line, if you're uneasy about having your information in the cloud service, do not buy a cloud-connected device. Buy one that records locally only. These have their own drawbacks, but you should make an informed decision about which tradeoffs make the most sense to you and your own risk profile. I personally don't worry about the cloud storage, but that's just me. No shame in making a different decision for yourself and your family.
Agreed. The images were stores in the cloud with or without a subscription.

The perp took the camera AFTER the images were already in the cloud (the camera itself does not store images).

The images could not be viewed the regular way, through the app on NG’s phone or devices because no subscription was paid up.

FBI was able to get a warrant to search part of cloud with timestamps, very laborious, thus it took a week to find these images of perp. Good news! FBI found them!

The search for perp continues.
JMO
 
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I mean, even just taking a quick glance at his eyebrows makes it clear that this is not the masked man.

But there may be others helping who were identified via cell phone tower data
 
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IT seems that Carlos is released and no reason to arrest him. Boy was that disappointing after the build up last night. I wonder what the probable cause was for the search warrant?
 
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hmm....maybe hoping for a dashcam? A lot of delivery services require them for insurance purposes. If that was the case though, wouldn't a simple phone call suffice?
Delivery guy at 1:47 AM??? LOL
 
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I don't think it's strange at all. I'm guessing NG doesn't drive at night. I believe she called the Uber knowing she didn't want to drive back home after dark. JMO. As for the Ub er driver, sure, LE should find him.
LE traced the Uber driver and cleared her


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AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026
 
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I think this thread is teaching me that a lot of people have never met a man with pretty eyes! I think everyone here would think my husband is a woman if we were going on eyes alone
It's not just that they are pretty, there is a definite feminine look about them. I'm probably wrong, but I can't see past it. lol
 
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I think one thing that people seem to forget when discussing how the person on the camera looks is that the cameras use infrared night light. It can change the appearance of things.
For example, my husband has blonde hair and blue eyes but his hair and eyes both look dark. His eyes look like black holes. My husband also has a very unique feature on his face that doesn’t show up on the camera. I only know it’s him because I know him so well but to anyone else, they would guess his face wrong.

I hope this makes sense.
 
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That would mean her family was involved. I pray that you are wrong.
Whoever this was though, had to know her schedule. He wasn’t in a hurry.
About your husbands meds, you can Google each one. Google will usually answer as best they can but will also refer you to a site that compares meds and tells you any side affects or dangers. I don’t recall the site at this moment but it’s very good.
ETA: I found it. It is drugs.com
Also your neighborhood pharmacist can talk to you.
 
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No! The MEDIA made such a show of this dentention. Imo. The police didn’t interview the mil in the street and report the guy’s name. the police should not have media following their every step and interfering.
They are doing their job investigating whatever leads they have. This is frustrating but it’s the media that are increasing the fury here imo.
MOO - but I'm old enough to remember when media was newspaper and media journalists who were held to journalistic standards for reporting facts.

Now, we have anyone with a phone or a tripod camera calling themselves journalists and running around behind police doing door to door canvasing and putting snapshots of themselves with concerned looks interwoven with true, real life people of the case for Youtube and Tiktok videos oftentimes running with outdated or incorrect information.

All this to say, yes, I think the 'media' is the problem at this point.
 
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No! The MEDIA made such a show of this dentention. Imo. The police didn’t interview the mil in the street and report the guy’s name. the police should not have media following their every step and interfering.
They are doing their job investigating whatever leads they have. This is frustrating but it’s the media that are increasing the fury here imo.
Few people dislike the current media more than I, and I worked for a local newspaper for decades. The media in many cases (and in my personal opinion) have become contemptible.

However, last night, we - including myself - were rapt and switching from one platform to another hoping to glean even another tidbit no matter how small.

All the clickbait for a few fractions of a cent and fervor to have a "scoop" leads "journalists" to go to incredible lengths to cover a story - especially one like this with an international audience. I can't imagine how exhausted some of the media are having been outside all day, standing around, hoping for a glimpse of just anything to share.

I see it as cause and effect. I'm so thankful I went on to bed. Didn't want to. I wanted to keep scrolling endlessly. From reading these posts, others did too. We are part of what drives the media to the lengths they go to. It's compelling. It's interesting. But often it ain't pretty.
 
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This case is very….strange. IMO. Everytime I see a “breaking development” that ends up not being the case; I feel like it’s giving “hoax” vibes. I don’t think it’s a hoax but that’s what it’s giving me at the moment. AMO
I don't feel like it's a hoax in the sense that poor NG is missing and her family is suffering. But I do have some suspicion that this case is not what it appears to be and I'm not talking about a run of the mill cover up by a close individual that we see in a lot of cases. There is something more at play here IMO.
 
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It's not just that they are pretty, there is a definite feminine look about them. I'm probably wrong, but I can't see past it. lol

A lot of people thought this about Luigi Mangione's eyes when he was seen in a mask. It's funny because I don't think Luigi's eyes really look "feminine" when you see his whole face.... "pretty" but not feminine. But when you remove the context of the rest of his face and view his eyes in isolation, they absolutely do. I think what we're dealing with here is that same lack of context.
 
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I don't feel like it's a hoax in the sense that poor NG is missing and her family is suffering. But I do have some suspicion that this case is not what it appears to be and I'm not talking about a run of the mill cover up by a close individual that we see in a lot of cases. There is something more at play here IMO.
Many people are saying this. It seemed cut and dried. All for money. But someone put this person up to this. I now believe he was paid or had help.
 

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