AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Inthedetails]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021643374122664139

I occurs to me that the family likely doesn't feel comfortable/safe going to their mom's house to retrieve items they might want right now, clear out the fridge, empty garbage, etc.

jmo

 

[Zeta74]

Glad SG brought in a private investigator. Pima police are not going to get this done.

 

[oviedo]

yours doesn't account for the extreme stupidity of some criminals. JMO your points are good ones, but I don't discount the fact that some people are just plain dumb and dangerous.

ITA the person on the camera could have cut the internet cable going into the house and that would have disabled the camera I think

JMO

 

[cckp72]

From the FBI website.

Does it look like he has some sort of tool in his right hand? It looks to me like a syringe, or knife?

 

[GailAnne]

I’m not American and have not studied your geography, so I’m not sure how I was supposed to know this.

Lots of drone videos of her neighborhood and house that will show you the only water around is in the swimming pools : )

 

[warp3dwing]

Fireman carry. I was trained to do that carry in the military and was able to transport men as heavy as me that way. If NG was carried out the front door this way the blood would indeed drip behind the person doing the carrying. IMO
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I will say this is very difficult to do without training.

I once had to carry someone significantly lighter than me, and I struggled mightily, even though this was in my bodybuilding days. I simply hadn't got the hang of the physics of it in the heat of the moment.

Do you feel like specific training would be necessary to carry someone like this to the road from the house, possibly with a full backpack?

 

[crhedBngr]

EVERYONE, RIGHT NOW, what is the maximum amount you can take in ONE day from your ATM? Check it! It's around 1200 dollars give or take. NO ONE would go to this elaborate extent with guns, full body disguise, and loaded backpack to take someone to an ATM for that amount. Additionally, going to an ATM exposes faces from that camera too. NOT an ATM robbery. IMO

IIRC, our bank let's us withdraw $1,000.

JMVHO.

 

[tlcya]

From the FBI website.

I looked here and don't see the images you shared. Can you give me a link to where on FBI site you found them? TIA

 

[WillenFan21]

FBI On the Hunt for Gun, Gear Worn by Nancy Guthrie Kidnapper

The FBI and the Pima County Sheriff's Department are homing in on the outfit the presumed kidnapper wore as he approached Nancy Guthrie's front door, and they are on the hunt for who bought the items ... law enforcement sources involved in the investigation tell TMZ.

www.tmz.com

 

[cherryleaf]

I occurs to me that the family likely doesn't feel comfortable/safe going to their mom's house to retrieve items they might want right now, clear out the fridge, empty garbage, etc.

jmo

Hopefully LEO checked all those random things out as well, especially if she has a chest type deep freezer. Ugh, Very morbid thought I just had, apologies.
MOO

 

[UK Girl]

that facial hair looks painted on to me. mOO

I thought that as well!!

 

[shonyakay]

I know this is kind of far fetched but could the perps be a terrorist cell?

 

[An Interloper]

Does anyone know how far a pacemaker has to be from a phone before it disconnects?

One thing that trips me up is the 1:47 to 2:28 time frame. That's an awful long time for kidnappers to remain in the house. Especially if the place wasn't ransacked or showing signs of robbery. What were they doing that whole time? I can't imagine it would take long to subdue a frail, elderly woman and squirrel her out of there?

Short range - less than bluetooth, but ultimately depends on . The radios and power systems are small.

Really?

The answer to your first question is: LE often follows WS threads and, yes, in the past some WS'ers have passed info on to LE.

The answer to your second question is: somebody on this thread might recognize the exact jacket once it's identified and might know a friend or relative who has that exact jacket.

The answer to your third question is: see the answers to your first two questions

If you are confident they are already "running this down" and also know what type of jacket and pack and holster and gloves and mask and - even who the perp is - for what reason do you think LE released the photos and asked: do you know who this person might be?

I applaud @Mica's search effort and think that jacket is as close as any I've seen

Jmo

Depending on the brand and other factors, you can make correlations about what was sold where and when. There's a host of cases where a garment or other distinct item was used to narrow down potential points of concentration for future review.

If you knew something was sold at Walmart, requests data for all sales of that item over X date range. If one was sold and other factors made it worth checking out, then you pull security footage, purchase records, etc. Just work down the list of data.

 

[armchairagatha]

Glad SG brought in a private investigator. Pima police are not going to get this done.

You mean Pima Police and the FBI are not going to get this done so now we need a private investigator. Kash is getting fired if the private investigator solves the case faster than the FBI!

 

[Bodhi]

The earth there is too dense to be buried.

However, after seeing that her septic tank is behind the wall of a neighboring property, I wonder about the possibility that another resident's septic tank may have been used. All the properties there have a septic tank, and some may be as concealed from view as her own is. I hate even thinking of this.

From what I've learned about caliche because of this case, I don't think she is buried either.

LE did a thorough search of the next-door neighbor's septic system. The manhole openings were outside the curtilage, on the back, outside side of the enclosed yard. Easily accessible without disturbing anyone in the house. There may be septic systems on neighboring properties that are not in the enclosed area and not easily visible from the house at night or on properties nearby that were unoccupied.

 

[Sundog]

I just can’t with AB, what she said about SIL was awful…. <Modsnip wayyyy off topic> AB is a hack. MOO!

I didn't watch the entire video of AB, so I am not sure what you are referring to, but her last guest made some very interesting observations and analysis of the guy in the FBI videos that were released yesterday. JMO.

 

[barth00]

Doorbell cam disconnected at 1:47. Pacemaker disconnects from phone at 2:28.

We don’t know for sure, but it would seem prep entered around 1:47 and Nancy was close to her phone until 2:28

Authorities provide a timeline of the night Nancy Guthrie disappeared

40 minutes to me seems like such a long time if nothing was taken from the house. Maybe I’m underestimating how long crimes take, especially knowing how long Brian Kohberger was inside their house. If she was taken out alive, does it take 40 min to coerce her with a gun, tie her wrists, and walk her outside? If she was killed, does it take 40 minutes to kill someone and drag her out? Sorry for the grotesque imagery. Unless some of that time was spent arguing or discussing something or her pleading.

ETA sorry was behind a few pages and realized someone literally just said this lol

 

[Ltiger4]

At one point, somewhere in this thread, someone had put together a list of possible motives. I can’t find it so I’m going to try to make a list.
1) kidnapping for ransom
2) killed by someone she knew and the rest of it is a staged cover up
3) someone obsessed with SG or trying to target SG for some reason
4) random SA / murder by someone who targets elderly - maybe a serial offender who is escalating?
5) robbery gone wrong - he didn’t think anyone was home, harmed her and then decided to get rid of her (the evidence)

Anything else?
Honestly none of these make a lot of sense. Who does this to an 84 year old woman???

 

[detectivewannab]

Just wondering what everyone is thinking about that jacket. Has anyone ever seen one like that before? It doesn't appear to be a current fashion from what I can see on Google. In fact, I haven't been able to track down one similar. However, I do recall seeing my Polish friend's husband wear something like this.

Maybe if we can help LE identify the jacket--and the jacket is on the rare side--but it will lead to identification when it was purchased?

It reminds me of the ones they sale at Sam's club or Costco.

 

[SMK777]

I know this is kind of far fetched but could the perps be a terrorist cell?

If so, they surely would have made some kind of statement by now, usually political.
MOO