Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Deleted member 117884]

My thinking too, I'm trying to imagine why the perp would walk up with no backpack and no gun, see the camera ad then go put on the (stuffed full) backpack and weapon to return and disable the camera. IMO everything about this case is weird including this part.

Your post prompted a question for me - what he was looking for ANY house that he thought he could access. Something at her door made him think "this one." Then he went to get his gear (whatever that was for) before actually entering.

Maybe it wasn't targeted at all, but just he thought he could get in.

jmo

 

[Tillicum]

I would just like confirmation that they looked in here. What even is that? Is it locked? (Yes I know a lot of time has passed.)

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Generator? Trash?

 

[Sundog]

dbm

I feel like the media bungled this not the FBI.

Good point and distinction.

 

[killarney rose]

I sometimes wonder if we’re making this mystery more complicated than it ought to be, that we’re treating the perp as some sort of criminal mastermind and overlooking something so obvious because that would be “just too easy.” The clues may be staring us right in the face. I hope this crime doesn’t go cold. I wonder at what point, time wise, a case is considered to be heading in that direction. It would have been better if we hadn’t heard that a person was brought in. Now, we know that they truly don’t have a prime suspect. Had things gone quiet we would have thought that maybe they had someone under surveillance. Their suspect has now been let go.

Hate being a Debbie Downer, but those are my thoughts right now. I wonder if the family will end up hiring their own private investigator.

I agree . I know of several cases I’ve followed over the years that the suspects have gotten away with murder. They aren’t very bright at all, they just had luck and circumstances on their side.

 

[birdbox]

I hope they looked at her wifi router to see if his phone tried to sync. There woukd have been some type of data packets they might could recover.

 

[CandyKiss]

Great closeup on the sleeve. At that zoom level it almost looks like there's pilling on the sleeve, which makes me wonder if it's a fleece-type jacket versus a windbreaker.

Thank you but not my pic, I found that zoomed photo (see attached) I agree, it does look like fleece ~ interesting wrist seam, and it is bulkier than a windbreaker. https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoni...cy-guthries-front-door-released-live-updates/

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Pool pump possibly?

Sure. And/or HVAC, other utilities, yard equipment, etc.

 

[EyeCandy]

As far as I can tell, the lights belong to the house across the road from Nancy -

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[EJB123456]

No idea but same. Maybe a storage shed for yard tools? NG has such a beautiful home. You can tell just by the upkeep and landscaping and clear pool how much it meant to her. Everything looks so well manicured and maintained.

Ah yes, and maybe pool stuff? I'm familiar with desert swimming pools - so presumably it could have 50 lb containers of chlorine tablets in there. Just hoping they peeked inside.

 

[Fargo]

Given that up until yesterday, we didn't know there was a blood trail going beyond the initial spot on NG's porch that we had seen from the beginning, I would wonder what else has been known from the beginning that we don't know about yet.

Frankly, I'm not sure LE knows the blood trail goes beyond the initial spot on the porch. IMO

 

[EyeCandy]

so many vehicles at that residence across the street. Was it being remodeled, etc

 

[An Interloper]

We've had decades of domestic terrorism risk from white nationalists and neo-nazis. If you want to examine the terrorism angle, you can add them to the list too.

So much so, the FBI needed to update the definition of certain aspects of domestic terror lest people get the idea the real boogeymen have been in the house the whole time.

Not to mention, I'm old enough to remember when it was Al Qaeda sleeper cells. "Foreign terrorists at the souther border" is a tale as old as time.

Nuttin new under the sun...

 

[Jessthinkin]

Yeah. It’s super easy to find phone numbers for the entire family, with the exception of Savannah.

No surprise.

And I was shocked to find the address for Nancy very easily publicly available, still! The Today Show featured an 8-minute segment in November, showing her going back to Tucson. It included her mom on camera, and the information that she still lived in Tucson. That, coupled with her very easily available online street address, could've encouraged some criminal opportunists...

 

[SMK777]

I agree . I know of several cases I’ve followed over the years that the suspects have gotten away with murder. They aren’t very bright at all, they just had luck and circumstances on their side.

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[TwoBlueJays]

Given that up until yesterday, we didn't know there was a blood trail going beyond the initial spot on NG's porch that we had seen from the beginning, I would wonder what else has been known from the beginning that we don't know about yet.

Far, far back in this ginormous thread, it was stated and sourced many times that the dried blood spots identified by LE as NG DNA began at the front door and continued along the driveway.

 

[Sessiebo]

It does seem strange that many of their lights are on at such a late hour. The lights stand out.

For me it's not that strange tbh. The xmas lights in my garden are there all yr around. In summertime they are just renamed as fairy lights
Also have a lot of solar powered lights that automatically turn on at night and at the front door a light because there are cameras and nightvision on them isn't always a good view incase someone is at the door.

 

[moonglow123]

Ah yes, and maybe pool stuff? I'm familiar with desert swimming pools - so presumably it could have 50 lb containers of chlorine tablets in there. Just hoping they peeked inside.

I think it’s a casita/guest house for family members or guests to stay in. I hope they looked in it too, I’m sure they did.

 

[The OG]

I hope they looked at her wifi router to see if his phone tried to sync. There woukd have been some type of data packets they might could recover.

Bringing your own phone along to commit burglary would be foolish.

 

[m00c0w]

Are you suggesting they might have claimed exigency due to a tip, just to keep from showing a sealed warrant to the homeowner? They have to claim in a search warrant what they are looking for. Let's say they find do that and find something critical not covered by the warrant? Any defense attorney who takes that case could get that evidence thrown out pretty easily. And possibly charges dismissed.

Huh?

The warrant is sealed. The homeowner has no idea what’s in the affidavit for the search warrant. When asked why police are there, they can respond with “Because we received a tip that [whatever makes sense].” They are under no obligation to reveal what is in the sealed affidavit, and sealing would be completely pointless if that wasn’t the case.

Do they have to leave the warrant and attachments describing places to be searched and items to be seized? Yes. Does that mean they have to reveal evidence in a kidnapping investigation? No. Not until the affidavit is unsealed.

JMO

 

[desert-blue]

My thinking too, I'm trying to imagine why the perp would walk up with no backpack and no gun, see the camera ad then go put on the (stuffed full) backpack and weapon to return and disable the camera. IMO everything about this case is weird including this part.

The pic with no backpack has to be BEFORE, because after he disabled and removed the camera, it would stop recording anything, at least from the location on the doorbell.

edited for clarification