AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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They just took two bags out of AG home and searching/retrieving mail from mailbox...
They could honestly just be retrieving some needed items and the mail for the family since they are staying elsewhere. No telling.
 
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That is interesting and it's something I've been considering. Most people are sure this is motivated by money/ransom, and maybe it is, and probably still the most likely motive, but I'll say it doesn't fit the typical ransom case.

No clear line of communication. No proof of life. Why haven't they provided this by now? Why haven't they given some type of definitive proof they are the actual kidnappers? I mean, we're almost two weeks into this and LE still doesn't know with 100% certainty the ransom notes are from the actual kidnappers.

The fact that this case doesn't exhibit the usual steps that ransom cases take has left the door open for me that there is some other motive here. And one of those possibilities I wondered about was did Savannah Guthrie have some obsessed stalker fan... he went to that house expecting to kidnap Savannah and not her mother? He was surprised about who was inside, and then kidnapped her as some sort of demented consolation prize? This doesn't seem super likely either, because I figure if someone was after Savannah and didn't find her there, they'd just flee. But nothing about this case fits the typical makings of what you usually see in these types of cases.
There have been loads of
That pizza stunt annoys me to no end. People, stay out of the way.

jmo

I wonder if they vetted who sent the pizza?

It reminds me of “pizza gate” with JE. Not saying there is any association, but just what came MY mind.
 
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I wish we knew what exactly is leading them towards AG or SIL. So, so much time spent searching and photographing her house and her neighborhood. Maybe they’re just trying to cover all their bases, but it still seems like so much? Is this level of scrutiny and searching standard? Hours spent every day 😕

I hope they’re not involved, so I hope it is just standard…
It is puzzling why they keep going back. You'd think they would have completed anything they needed to do there by now.
 
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My thinking too, I'm trying to imagine why the perp would walk up with no backpack and no gun, see the camera ad then go put on the (stuffed full) backpack and weapon to return and disable the camera. IMO everything about this case is weird including this part.
With no time stamps it is impossible to determine. It could be that the pic with no backpack was taken a long time before anything even happened. It could have even been before NG arrived home for all we know. In fact, all the footage could be from before she came home, although removing the camera would be risky unless the perp knew for sure that she'd enter the house through the garage. Otherwise, she likely would have noticed the missing camera and not gone in the house. The perp obviously removed NG via the front door, thus the blood, and that's why they removed the camera beforehand.
 
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Someone posted earlier that they thought there was someone else inside while this guy was on the front porch. Interesting idea. Might explain his sauntering if he’s just there to see what can be seen through the camera (eg on NGs phone). Maybe some one said “go pick flowers” to see what he could hear through the door..idk that part is weird… but if he removes the camera at the end of the clip maybe they are making sure you can’t see anything before they take her out the door..and they confirm they have destroyed the camera and erase the images from her phone. Grasping at straws…. Remember the back door was supposedly opened-and there was supposedly force entry-maybe they entered in back but had to take her out the front door and needed to make sure the doorbell camera was destroyed.
I definitely believe there are two people involved. I cannot fathom how one person could take NG out on their own.
 
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So maybe just retreiving things the family requested as needing, but can't get for themselves because of media/youtubers all over the place??

jmo
Yes, that tracks as well.
Imo.
 
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Frankly, I'm not sure LE knows the blood trail goes beyond the initial spot on the porch. IMO
I was looking for a video to include in my reply but everything I'm seeing is from days ago and I thought I had only seen a video posted here yesterday that showed the blood trail. This video show it starting at 3:05 but says it's from 2/4 so I was wrong about only finding that info out yesterday. I will edit my comment. Blood trail found outside home of Savannah Guthrie’s mom
 
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That is interesting and it's something I've been considering. Most people are sure this is motivated by money/ransom, and maybe it is, and probably still the most likely motive, but I'll say it doesn't fit the typical ransom case.

No clear line of communication. No proof of life. Why haven't they provided this by now? Why haven't they given some type of definitive proof they are the actual kidnappers? I mean, we're almost two weeks into this and LE still doesn't know with 100% certainty the ransom notes are from the actual kidnappers.

The fact that this case doesn't exhibit the usual steps that ransom cases take has left the door open for me that there is some other motive here. And one of those possibilities I wondered about was did Savannah Guthrie have some obsessed stalker fan... he went to that house expecting to kidnap Savannah and not her mother? He was surprised about who was inside, and then kidnapped her as some sort of demented consolation prize? This doesn't seem super likely either, because I figure if someone was after Savannah and didn't find her there, they'd just flee. But nothing about this case fits the typical makings of what you usually see in these types of cases.
IMO- Since I first learned about this case, I have wondered if the person who took NG has an obsession with SG. Not all obsessions are “positive” (meaning infatuation) towards the victim. The person could have an obsessive “hatred” towards SG. Especially given she is so prominent in the public eye. Kidnapping a person’s elderly mother certainly would be a way to inflict pain towards them, especially when the potential target (SG) is untouchable. There’s something about the second plea video, where SG talks to the kidnapper (with siblings sitting with her, but not speaking), makes me wonder if the kidnapping was committed as a way to “punish” SG. And by hatred/ punish- I am saying it could be due to some sort of imagined and perceived slight. I think it’s quite possible this is the work of someone with a major break from reality. But again, no facts to back this up, just IMO. It’s a very sad case, and I hope i am incorrect, I would definitely assume they FBI has already looked at any past correspondence received by SG. I can’t imagine how anyone in the family must feel. So much speculation from the public, me included. It’s tragic.
 
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I do not have “brain fog” when I wake up.

I have read/heard nothing about a neighbor taking her to church.

I understood from reading evidence/information she attended Mass via the internet, an online link.
It was reported here at WS a couple hundred posts back that she attended virtual church services at SG's church in NY. A group of local friends would get together to watch at one person's house. One of this group was supposed to pick NG up to attend this group viewing. I will look for the OP.

ETA: link to original post AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026
 
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Thanks for this update and link, @MassGuy .
LE seem to keep focusing on the sister AG and by default, the SIL ?
Just an observation.
Omo.
Seems like LE picked up mail and left.

I'm thinking the family can't access their own home because of all the attention and people.

jmo
 
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If I recall, BE originally reported (several days ago) that there was a blood trail going from the front door, down to the sidewalk to where it hits the drive/road. I think for some of us here since the beginning, it was on the first few pages of the thread. He noticed it as soon as they released the scene....the first time.
Thank you-I'm going to edit my comment now. When I was replying to another poster, I found out I was wrong about it being new info.
 
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Sorry if this has been posted before and sad to write this. I think the SIL is involved. I think she was taken and killed and hidden in.the desert. Why not in.the house? So the house would not be a murder/crime scene. Perhaps done for an early inheritance. MOO of course any thoughts?
 
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Or that they are bad at this...now per BE they are back again at AG's house...repeat review again.
Rhetorical question but what is driving them to search the AG home so many times (are we up to four times now?)? There must be a reason that magnetizes them in this direction... But not enough for any other action. Very curious. MOO
 
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2 agents just came out of AG's house, again, and again carrying a brown and potentially other (evidence type) bag.
 
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They could honestly just be retrieving some needed items and the mail for the family since they are staying elsewhere. No telling.
That's true. They seemed to come and go quickly.
 
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As expected, the release of that video last night led to thousands of new tips. Here’s the latest from PCSD:

Today: The Pima County Sheriff’s Department and the FBI continue to follow up on all leads. We thank the media and the public for the thousands of tips submitted through the various tip lines. PCSD alone has received nearly 18,000 calls since February 1 - more than 4,000 of those in the last 24 hours.Several hundred detectives and agents are currently assigned to this case, and you will continue to see increased law enforcement activity throughout Pima County as the investigation expands.Investigators are working around the clock. We encourage anyone with actionable information to contact 1-800-CALL-FBI or the PCSD non-emergency line at 520-351-4900.Subject Detained: One adult male detained Tuesday afternoon for questioning has been released after speaking with investigators. This detention was part of follow-up on incoming leads. As with any investigation, we do not release the identities of individuals who are detained and later released without charges.Note(s): The FBI is handling all aspects related to any ransom note(s) or communications involving the Guthrie family. Any inquiries regarding this matter should be directed to the FBI Public Affairs Office.Briefings / Interviews: There are no press briefings scheduled at this time. Sheriff Nanos is not conducting one-on-one interviews and remains the sole department spokesperson. Should a significant development occur, a press conference will be called, and you will be notified via email and our @pimasheriff X account.

 

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